EWTN called out by Pope Francis

[ReasonableFaith]

2 hours ago, Peace said:

What we are talking about is a subset of "trads". There's a group of young guys at my Church like this and they are quite annoying. If you get anywhere near the topic of the Mass they'll start ranting off a long laundry list of things that they think are defective about the NO, and why its done better in the TLM. If you even try to explain the reason why its done differently in the NO, they'll get into a huge argument with you. They can't accept that there are different ways of doing things that are both good. It has to be their way or the highway. A lot of these guys are extremely prideful and judgmental, they just don't realize it. They seem to think they know everything, and I do suspect that this is a big part of the reason the TLM has become popular with a them. They seem to use it as an opportunity to say "I know better than you."

There is certainly a subset of so called ‘traditionalist’ which uses the 1962 missal as a cudgel against those they believe are not practicing ‘the true faith.’  
 

I have personally fielded the complaints from some so called ‘traditionalist’ after a more ‘progressive,’ Paul VI Missal worshiping group arranged liturgical worship largely in Latin and with some archaic accoutrements. They expressed dismay over their ‘stolen’ shibboleths. Quite frankly it made me rather a fan of the appropriation of such shibboleths if only to show their potentially divisive use by some rather than their ‘properness’ to authentic worship. 

Edited September 25, 2021 by ReasonableFaith
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[ardillacid]

Seems passive aggressive to me. 

Can Catholics criticize the pope? 

[KnightofChrist]

25 minutes ago, ardillacid said:

Seems passive aggressive to me. 

Can Catholics criticize the pope? 

It seems he said on one hand, one can critique him because is a sinner, but on the other hand, one cannot critique him because he is the church.

 

[Norseman82]

7 hours ago, ardillacid said:

Seems passive aggressive to me. 

Can Catholics criticize the pope? 

Here's what Fr. Kirby said in a homily regarding one of Pope Francis' statements on civil unions:  

 

[debc]

They deserve to be legally covered outside the church. Gay couples have been denied seeing each other in hospital's years ago and they shouldn't be kicked out of homes. (although that choice is the parents) He is talking of love, this priest isn't. Not all gay couples are Catholic. He is not allowing them to be married in the church, even blessed, but as human beings, they should be allowed to have health insurance together and other civil laws. That is fair.

I know gay couples that have been together 20-30 years and they should have the right to make decisions for each other and share insurance. (which they do) That is all he meant.

I've read stories of parents and mothers who disowned children who were gay, burned their things, ignored attempts years later to see them. Shockingly lack of Christian love and I feel others just don't get it.

This priest can talk of novenas and prayer but dissing the Pope on the pulpit, is shocking.