ironmonk Posted July 11, 2004 Posted July 11, 2004 [url="http://www.cardinalnewmansociety.org/"]http://www.cardinalnewmansociety.org/[/url] [b]Culture of Death on Catholic Campuses: [/b]A Five-Year Review (4/28/04) Cardinal Newman Society has issued a shocking new report on scandals at U.S. Catholic colleges and universities that is certain to reignite concerns about the colleges’ religious character. The 56-page report, “The Culture of Death on Catholic Campuses: A Five-Year Review,” documents inroads made by advocates of abortion, contraception, premarital sexual activity and physician-assisted suicide onto Catholic college campuses since 1999. It is the most extensive evidence of problems in Catholic higher education ever compiled in a single source—and yet it only scratches the surface, relying primarily on media reports and college websites. “‘Pro-choice’ is no choice for a Catholic institution, which by its Catholic mission must be courageously pro-life,” said Erin Butcher, lead researcher and co-author of the report. “Cardinal Newman Society has responded to scandal after scandal on Catholic campuses, but many Catholics still fail to appreciate the scope of the problem.” The report identifies the problems and suggests solutions to ensure that Catholic colleges uphold their Catholic, pro-life mission. [url="http://www.cardinalnewmansociety.org/pdf/Executive%20Summary%20-%20Culture%20of%20Death%20on%20Catholic%20Campuses.pdf"]http://www.cardinalnewmansociety.org/pdf/E...%20Campuses.pdf[/url] [url="http://www.cardinalnewmansociety.org/pdf/Culture%20of%20Death%20on%20Catholic%20Campuses.pdf"]http://www.cardinalnewmansociety.org/pdf/C...%20Campuses.pdf[/url] God Bless, ironmonk
louisville Posted August 9, 2004 Posted August 9, 2004 indeed, our Catholic Universities need some work. Imagine the difference these universities could make to the nation if they were fervently Catholic like they should be. I went to the orientation for a Catholic university this summer and what shocked me was that at the "optional" mass durring orientation, there were only two other to be students in attendance out of the 300 some odd that were there. very dissapointing. also at another portion of the orientation, they were stressing that we have consent with our partner before sexual activity. not one comment about abstinance ill look on the bright side- more evangalizing opertunaties!
RandomProddy Posted August 9, 2004 Posted August 9, 2004 Wow, that smells of elderberries. I though Catholic colleges would have been even stricter than the school I went to (they basically banned sex ed).
Socrates Posted August 10, 2004 Posted August 10, 2004 Have you heard of Christendom College? (www.christendom.edu)
Aloysius Posted August 10, 2004 Posted August 10, 2004 Dude, the Pope and Bishops need to lay the SMACK DOWN on these colledges!!!!
daugher-of-Mary Posted August 10, 2004 Posted August 10, 2004 Don't Bishops have an [b]obligation[/b] to uphold orthodoxy within their diocese?
daugher-of-Mary Posted August 10, 2004 Posted August 10, 2004 ahh albuterol does weird things to your typing capabilities... my post should read "Don't Bishops have an obligation to uphold orthodoxy in the Catholic colleges of their diocese?"
Ash Wednesday Posted August 10, 2004 Posted August 10, 2004 I've heard that good kids raised Catholic attended Catholic universities and graduated with a more hostile, contemptuous attitude towards Catholicism and the Magesterium, compared to Catholic kids that went to a public university. If that is the case, as I said before, I'd just as soon send my kid to a public school before putting them before these wolves in sheep's clothing. Universities like Brigham Young University, the Mormon university, put the average Catholic university to shame in terms of their emphasis on strong morals and family values, and fidelity to their professed faith. All that and strong academics, too. At BYU, you have an honor code for students on campus -- while some may say it's pretty Nazi stringent and frivolous, it's more than just the standard "criminal-code-drink-yourself-sick-and-go-ahead-and-have-sex-if-youre-legal-but-dont-break-the-law" in most universities, and certainly gets the point across of what the school is about, and what it isn't. If Catholic schools are getting the Vatican's money, they need to go by the Vatican's rules.
stagefairy Posted August 11, 2004 Posted August 11, 2004 There are a few good solid Catholic schools out there, which I'm sure some of you have heard of. Christendom was already mentioned [url="http://www.christendom.edu/"]Christendom[/url] [url="http://www.magdalen.edu/"]Magdalen College[/url] which is in New Hampshire [url="http://www.thomasaquinas.edu/"]Thomas Aquinas College[/url] in California [url="http://www.franciscan.edu/Home2/Content/main.aspx"]Steubenville[/url] ... which everyone knows about [url="http://www.colcc.com/"]Our Lady of Corpus Christi[/url] is a newer school in Corpus Christi Texas. I have heard wonderful things about each of these schools. Check them out!
God Conquers Posted August 11, 2004 Posted August 11, 2004 There are a couple of awesome schools in Canada as well: [url="http://www.seatofwisdom.org/"]Our Lady Seat of Wisdom[/url] [url="http://www.collegedominicain.com"]Dominican College[/url] And how about [url="http://www.avemaria.edu/"]Ave Maria[/url]?
cmotherofpirl Posted August 11, 2004 Posted August 11, 2004 [quote name='daugher-of-Mary' date='Aug 10 2004, 12:00 AM'] Don't Bishops have an [b]obligation[/b] to uphold orthodoxy within their diocese? [/quote] Yes they do, but colleges are under independant control. A Bishop can however, demand that theology teachers sign the mandatum. However many of them would laugh in his face rather than comply. My college [to my shame] is a hotbed of liberal feminist sisters.
Apotheoun Posted August 11, 2004 Posted August 11, 2004 [quote name='cmotherofpirl' date='Aug 11 2004, 10:32 AM'] Yes they do, but colleges are under independant control. A Bishop can however, demand that theology teachers sign the mandatum. However many of them would laugh in his face rather than comply. My college [to my shame] is a hotbed of liberal feminist sisters. [/quote] The bishop also has the authority to declare a school non-Catholic, and to forbid it to use the name "Catholic." In addition, he can warn to faithful to avoid schools that are not orthodox in faith and practice. God bless, Todd
Madonna Posted August 11, 2004 Posted August 11, 2004 (edited) [quote name='Apotheoun' date='Aug 11 2004, 01:07 PM'] The bishop also has the authority to declare a school non-Catholic, and to forbid it to use the name "Catholic." In addition, he can warn to faithful to avoid schools that are not orthodox in faith and practice. God bless, Todd [/quote] So why don't they? In a lot of cases, schools with known "unCatholic" teaching just keep functioning with the Catholic name. I think that misrepresents the Church. I am leery of Catholic universities where the professors do not take the Oath of Fidelity or make the Profession of Faith. *edited for compulsive correction of grammar. Edited August 11, 2004 by Madonna
Apotheoun Posted August 11, 2004 Posted August 11, 2004 [quote name='Madonna' date='Aug 11 2004, 11:16 AM'] So why don't they? In a lot of cases, schools with known "unCatholic" teaching just keep functioning with the Catholic name. I think that misrepresents the Church, I am leery of Catholic universities where the professors do not take the Oath of Fidelity of make the Profession of Faith. [/quote] I have no idea why they don't do anything.
Apotheoun Posted August 11, 2004 Posted August 11, 2004 [quote name='Madonna' date='Aug 11 2004, 11:16 AM'] I am leery of Catholic universities where the professors do not take the Oath of Fidelity or make the Profession of Faith. [/quote] I go to Franciscan University of Steubenville, and all the professors in the Theology Department take the Oath of Fidelity. I was at the Mass last year where the newest professors took the Oath, and it was very beautiful. God bless, Todd
Madonna Posted August 11, 2004 Posted August 11, 2004 [quote] I go to Franciscan University of Steubenville, and all the professors in the Theology Department take the Oath of Fidelity. I was at the Mass last year where the newest professors took the Oath, and it was very beautiful.[/quote] Steubenville was my dream school for two years. A few things happened that really turned me off. I went on an anit-Steubenville kick. I know that must sound silly because I know so many people that worship Steubenville. My bitterness is wearing off, though, and I have grown up some. I am considering it for a possible place to go for grad school. I doubt I'll find sound theology at the university I currently attend.
kateri05 Posted August 11, 2004 Posted August 11, 2004 ave maria is also excellent! they require the oath and have 2 campuses: michigan and flordia. however, none of these schools offer doctorates in theology (a friend of mine is looking into that and is frustrated by the lack of orthodox doctorate programs, or rather, there apparent nonexistence)
Apotheoun Posted August 11, 2004 Posted August 11, 2004 [quote name='Madonna' date='Aug 11 2004, 12:02 PM'] Steubenville was my dream school for two years. A few things happened that really turned me off. I went on an anit-Steubenville kick. I know that must sound silly because I know so many people that worship Steubenville. My bitterness is wearing off, though, and I have grown up some. I am considering it for a possible place to go for grad school. I doubt I'll find sound theology at the university I currently attend. [/quote] Every school has problems, and Steubenville is no exception, but it is orthodox in its presentation of Catholic theology. Certainly, there is room for improvement, because sometimes things are not covered in any great depth, but then, this is a problem at all schools, since time is limited. I suppose they could make a Bachelors degree take 8 years and a Masters degree could take 5 years, and you'd get much more depth if they did that, but it's also not a very realistic solution to the problem. One of the things that is really required of any student is self-study, i.e., pushing oneself to go beyond what is required, but that kind of motivation cannot be taught. God bless, Todd
Theoketos Posted August 11, 2004 Posted August 11, 2004 If you want an authenticly Catholic Campus, which I must still say has alot of soil to till, go to [url="http://www.Benedictine.edu"]Benedictine College[/url]. Although some crazies associate themselves with the Benedictine name, that is true of every campus.
Madonna Posted August 12, 2004 Posted August 12, 2004 [quote name='Apotheoun' date='Aug 11 2004, 03:40 PM'] One of the things that is really required of any student is self-study, i.e., pushing oneself to go beyond what is required, but that kind of motivation cannot be taught. God bless, Todd [/quote] oh, I completely agree. That is why I am disappointed in myself for not keeping up. All my notions about Steubenville are gone now. I am not as excited about the university as I once was, but all my bitterness is in the past. I am still considering it for a graduate degree. I am also really interested in Ave Maria University in Florida. The man that founded Dominos is practically giving his whole fortune over to the university. I'm pretty happy with where I'm at now though. We have a strong Catholic community on campus.
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