eustace-scrubb2 Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 I was raised a fundie born-again creationist. That changed over a decade ago. Something I've never fully resolved, however, is how the Garden of Eden and the fall of man and protoevangelium exist without a literal understanding of Genesis. I hear people say "Christianity and Judaism took a lot from paganism" and I don't have an intelligent, informed response to it. Can someone help me out here? I'm not at all looking for a debate, btw. Just seeking theological help. Btw for anyone who wasn't around for it, I posted here over a decade ago, while considering converting to Catholicism. I ended up being chrismated in the Eastern Orthodox Church, but for a number of reasons I don't want to get into, left it for the Roman Church. Totally Franciscan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fides' Jack Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 Not all of Genesis can be metaphorical. All of Catholic theology, and our understand of salvation history, are built on the fact that there was a first man and woman, that they fell into sin, that we are affected as a result of that. I'm not sure it's absolutely necessary to believe the universe was created in 6 days, or that 6 days in creation equate to the same time frame that 6 days are now. But it is absolutely necessary, in order to be a Catholic, to believe God directly created the first man and woman, that they fell into sin, and that as a result the gates of heaven were closed, and concupiscence affects all of us, as "sons of Adam" and "daughters of Eve". I too turned away from Creationism a number of years ago, but the more time goes on, and I see what's going on in the world today, the more I am willing to turn back to a literal understanding of much of Genesis. At the very least, Creationism is more amenable to Catholic theology than modern scientific theories such as evolution or the big bang theory. Totally Franciscan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eustace-scrubb2 Posted January 22 Author Share Posted January 22 Thanks, but... I know. What I'm asking is how theology and scientific data fit together. I'll just ask a priest about this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinytherese Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 Have you checked Catholic Answers? https://www.catholic.com/search?q=creationism eustace-scrubb2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eustace-scrubb2 Posted January 31 Author Share Posted January 31 (edited) I considered it, but didn't know where I'd find it on there! Also, lol at me - I have a close friend who works for their radio show! *smacks himself in the forehead* Edit: oh goodness, those are more articles than I expected... :\ Edited January 31 by eustace-scrubb2 am dumb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinytherese Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 On 1/31/2023 at 11:33 AM, eustace-scrubb2 said: Edit: oh goodness, those are more articles than I expected... 😕 Yea, I feel overwhelmed with their search results too. Just one at a time and take breaks I guess. On different note, I like your screen name since I'm a fan of The Chronicles of Narnia. The series played a role in my conversion from being lukewarm to devout in my faith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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