God Conquers Posted July 19, 2004 Posted July 19, 2004 My Holy and Wise phatmass Pham, This question is really important for me and possibly many others right now, so if you are able to give me an answer I and we would greatly appreciate it: Has there ever been a recorded and Church Sanctioned instance of an apparition of a Saint? I have never heard of this before, and the wuestion is vitally important right now. I'm thinking specifically to an event of private revelation displayed through physical manifestation. Has the image of a saint ever been captured in pictures or on objects in the same way that Christ and Our Lady have? Please provide me with examples if you can. God Bless and Thank You, Matt.
p0lar_bear Posted July 19, 2004 Posted July 19, 2004 Michael the Archangel--http://magnificat.ca/cal/engl/05-08.htm St. Joseph--http://www.nd-de-graces.com/history/apparstjoseph.htm
Dave Posted July 19, 2004 Posted July 19, 2004 At Fatima Our Lady wasn't the only one who appeared. At the final apparition, St. Joseph also appeared holding the Christ child, and he blessed the crowd that was there. Btw, Matt, it's great seeing you here again!
Flash Posted July 19, 2004 Posted July 19, 2004 I believe that there are two terms used in this case. The first is the church will say that it is not "contradictory" to the Church's teaching. This happens with many of the famous appirations. However, besides those mentioned above very few are are "sanctioned" and none at all ( of the ones past the time of Christ) are proclaimed "necessary for salvation"
Theoketos Posted July 19, 2004 Posted July 19, 2004 Flash makes an awesome point, and Polar Bear beat me to the punch. Private Revelation adds nothing to an already founded faith, they are just wonderful gifts from God. And With God there everything is possible, so why not saints posing for pics?
VeraMaria Posted July 19, 2004 Posted July 19, 2004 [quote name='Dave' date='Jul 19 2004, 11:38 AM'] At Fatima Our Lady wasn't the only one who appeared. At the final apparition, St. Joseph also appeared holding the Christ child, and he blessed the crowd that was there. [/quote] Yes, I was about to say that. I don;t know about any other apparitions of Saints that were sanctioned by the Church, but in the last Fatima apparition Our Lady appeared with Saint Joseph and the Child Jesus. Hmmm...while looking for some more info I came to several eye-witness accounts of the Last Fatima apparition [url="http://www.ewtn.com/fatima/apparitions/October.htm"]http://www.ewtn.com/fatima/apparitions/October.htm[/url]
God Conquers Posted July 19, 2004 Author Posted July 19, 2004 Thanks guys, you're all great. I'm aware that it would not be a "necessary for salvation" question, but I'm more trying to figure out what God is trying to reveal through some miraculous occurances. Say a certain saint were to appear several times, or situations involving that saint kept coming up, what could God be saying, other than the obvious "Devotion to this saint right now would be good" ? PS: Thanks Dave! I'll be back in a bigger way in a few months, once school starts up again and I'm off mission.
p0lar_bear Posted July 19, 2004 Posted July 19, 2004 I think that's a matter to discuss with you spiritual director--especially as regards the authenticity of the apparitions.
Dave Posted July 19, 2004 Posted July 19, 2004 Oh wait, I just thought of another one! When Our Lady appeared at Knock in Ireland, St. Joseph and St. John the Baptist appeared with her.
DojoGrant Posted July 19, 2004 Posted July 19, 2004 Just thinking out loud... Both Jesus and Mary have their bodies in Heaven, but the other saints do not have glorified bodies yet. Would this make a difference?
Theoketos Posted July 19, 2004 Posted July 19, 2004 Listen to God. Having Glorified bodies or not having would not limit God.
cmotherofpirl Posted July 19, 2004 Posted July 19, 2004 Remember Moses and Elijah appeared at the Transfiguration too.
qfnol31 Posted July 19, 2004 Posted July 19, 2004 [quote name='VeraMaria' date='Jul 19 2004, 10:14 AM'] Yes, I was about to say that. I don;t know about any other apparitions of Saints that were sanctioned by the Church, but in the last Fatima apparition Our Lady appeared with Saint Joseph and the Child Jesus. Hmmm...while looking for some more info I came to several eye-witness accounts of the Last Fatima apparition [url="http://www.ewtn.com/fatima/apparitions/October.htm"]http://www.ewtn.com/fatima/apparitions/October.htm[/url] [/quote] I think there might be one of St. Padre Pio actually.
EcceNovaFacioOmni Posted July 19, 2004 Posted July 19, 2004 St. Michael the Archangel has appeared more than once: [url="http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/10275b.htm"]http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/10275b.htm[/url]
phatcatholic Posted July 20, 2004 Posted July 20, 2004 in the entry at New Advent on [url="http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/09128a.htm"][b]Legends of the Saints[/b][/url] i found this paragraph:[list] [*]Concerning the miraculous occurrences at the grave of St. Peter Parenzo at Orvieto (d. 1199) -- an exhaustive list cannot be attempted here; we quote but a few examples -- of St. Bertrand of Aquilcia (d. 1350), of St. Helena of Udina (1458), of St. James Philippi of Faenza (1483), of St. Hypolistus of Atripalda (1637-46), of St. Juventius in Casa Dei (at Rouen, 1667-74), we have documentary accounts (Acta SS., May, V, 98-9; June, I, 791 sqq.; April, III, 255; May, VI, 166 sqq.; 1 May, appendix, VII, 528; June, I, 45 sqq.). [/list]i understand this to be a list of saints that have appeared in the form of an apparition at the grave of St. Peter Parenzo. if so, this would be an excellent testament to the existence of apparitions of saints besides those of the Holy Family.
God Conquers Posted July 20, 2004 Author Posted July 20, 2004 Excellent, thanks guys and gals. God certainly is not limited in who He can place where. It is more the significance which gets me. Why might God choose to begin sending saints as apparitions?
IcePrincessKRS Posted July 20, 2004 Posted July 20, 2004 I don't think anyone else has mentioned this yet, but remember, St. Joan of Arc had saints and angels appear to her, too. (I can't recall exactly which saints it was right now, I'd have to look it up....) I'd definately take Polar Bear's advice and talk to your priest of spiritual director, too.
God Conquers Posted July 20, 2004 Author Posted July 20, 2004 Definately being done. It's not like I'm seeing visions or anything serious like that, just that a few people around me and on mission have experienced soem wacky coincidences (most definately God-instances).
Flash Posted July 20, 2004 Posted July 20, 2004 Responding to Ice Princess I believe that it was saint Catherine and possibly saint Agnes that appeared to Joan of Arc
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