Papal Great Invocation

[Don John of Austria]

Budge -- I can agree with you completly, I have been around Witchcraft and Satanism, Mormanism, and Hinduism, not to mention the ever present Jehovahs Witnesses. I was baptised in the Episcopal Church 30 years ago( before they went Crazy) and agree completely that nothing brings Salvation or Peace except Christ Church. However, the only Church that qualifies as that is the One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church, The Roman Church Founded by Christ Himself on the Rock -- Peter-- it is the only Church that is truely Christ Church and it is the only one which can bring either Peace or Salvation. If our Pope said this thing then it was a thing outside of Catholic Tradition, but Popes can express things as men, or as priest or as theologians which can be mistaken or even heretical and not lose the Authority granted them by Christ and the Father, as The Pope and in that role, "from the Chair of Peter" they cannot be mistaken or heretical, the Holy Spirit will not allow them to.

[jmjtina]

[quote]If the Pope said there is no God or that the Catholic Church is not the True Church or that contraception is OK, would you need the context to know its wrong? NO! [/quote]

he didn't, and he won't. This is the Catholic Church. She has already declared her stance on both those items. Again, you think us faithful to the Mother Church and a love for the Pope makes us ignorant and blind.

Have you read Humane Vitae?


[b]The March for Life [/b]is they prime example of uniting with ALL faiths (or lack of) to come together to [u]stop murder [/u]in the womb. We all pray for an end. And put on by Priests for Life I believe. Here the Diocese puts on thier own mini March for Life and invite EVERYBODY. Are we to stop that? If so, why? People are praying in thier own way (or not praying at all but holding visible signs) yet all united to stop the killing. the Diocese is in NO WAY promoting other ppl's faith, but calling all to become one to stop this evil we ALL suffer from. Is this not the same with the Vatican? Calling all faiths to pray and show a visible sign of unity to end a great evil?

God Bless.

[Chucho]

Budge, you said that you like peace and are all for peace. That’s what the Pope wants as well, peace. Do you think that maybe the Pope calls for peace in this violent unmerciful world so as to help the people of other religions allow themselves to take a closer look at Christ who brings true peace? I certainly do.

[b]EDIT*[/b]:Wrong link, but now corrected
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This may also be a reason for the Pope to call for peace in the world among different religions. To call for peace so as others might live is certainly a noble cause. And if this then leads to interfaith dialogue that promotes Christianity, then this is even more noble. You just quoted that at Fatima, Hindis were praying to the Mother of God. This is a matter to rejoice at! But for whatever reason you say that this is wrong. I would like for you to explain this because I just don’t understand how it is so.

You say:

[quote]Who can argue with peace? I like peace, but Christians KNOW that only Christ will bring peace.[/quote]

Yes this is most certainly true. No one has taken a different position from you on this at any time. Could it be that the Pope asks for peace among the different religions so that they will stop and see that it is Christ that brings true peace?

As a matter of fact, you take on the same position of peace that the Pope does, but for this you call him a universalist. We know that you want peace and are not a universalist, so why do you call the Pope one when he wants peace?

Edited July 29, 2004 by Chucho