Can Abortion Ever Be Made Illegal Again?

[Guest almah19]

This is just my view on abortion, and it is probably in the wrong place, but i am new.
Firstly, i do think it is wrong but on a few circumstances I think it is the better choice,ie. on a talk show last week there was a 6 mnths pregnant woman who was a prostitute and was still selling herself and injecting heroin into her veins, personally if i was that messed up i would not want to give birth to a baby and let it go through all that suffering cos of me.
Secondly, i dont think abortion would ever be made illegal again because it is seen as the mothers choice as the baby is inside her, and if they did make it illegal people would still go to back street abortionists, it wouldnt solve the problem.
Thirdly, where im from the law is that you can have an abortion up to 24 weeks because they say that the baby is not developed enough to be considered a 'proper life'. I dont have a clue about the development rates and ages of babies but a while back a woman gave birth to a baby at 23 or 24 weeks and the baby survives. So if a baby can survive at that age outside of the womb how can they say that it is o.k to abort it?

[MagiDragon]

[quote name='almah19' date='Jul 31 2004, 01:44 PM'] This is just my view on abortion, and it is probably in the wrong place, but i am new.
Firstly, i do think it is wrong but on a few circumstances I think it is the better choice,ie. on a talk show last week there was a 6 mnths pregnant woman who was a prostitute and was still selling herself and injecting heroin into her veins, personally if i was that messed up i would not want to give birth to a baby and let it go through all that suffering cos of me.
Secondly, i dont think abortion would ever be made illegal again because it is seen as the mothers choice as the baby is inside her, and if they did make it illegal people would still go to back street abortionists, it wouldnt solve the problem.
Thirdly, where im from the law is that you can have an abortion up to 24 weeks because they say that the baby is not developed enough to be considered a 'proper life'. I dont have a clue about the development rates and ages of babies but a while back a woman gave birth to a baby at 23 or 24 weeks and the baby survives. So if a baby can survive at that age outside of the womb how can they say that it is o.k to abort it? [/quote]
The trouble with this is that the Church teaches (and science agrees!) that there's a person present almost immediately after conception. Therefore, any equivocation here must be to place murder equal to something else.

in this case we would be saying that killing a child who is going to be a crack baby is no worse than letting it live. If you think about that, it really cheapens the value of life, and we should never do that.

Peace,
Joe

[RandomProddy]

[quote name='almah19' date='Jul 31 2004, 07:44 PM'] This is just my view on abortion, and it is probably in the wrong place, but i am new.
Firstly, i do think it is wrong but on a few circumstances I think it is the better choice,ie. on a talk show last week there was a 6 mnths pregnant woman who was a prostitute and was still selling herself and injecting heroin into her veins, personally if i was that messed up i would not want to give birth to a baby and let it go through all that suffering cos of me.
Secondly, i dont think abortion would ever be made illegal again because it is seen as the mothers choice as the baby is inside her, and if they did make it illegal people would still go to back street abortionists, it wouldnt solve the problem.
Thirdly, where im from the law is that you can have an abortion up to 24 weeks because they say that the baby is not developed enough to be considered a 'proper life'. I dont have a clue about the development rates and ages of babies but a while back a woman gave birth to a baby at 23 or 24 weeks and the baby survives. So if a baby can survive at that age outside of the womb how can they say that it is o.k to abort it? [/quote]
Hi

(I'm guessing you are British btw)

[Thy Geekdom Come]

[quote]3.) Making abortion illegal again would require a vote on a pro-life bill in Congress that wouldn't be vetoed by the President. It'd also require that the President would appoint a pro-life judge willing to overturn Roe v. Wade. All of this is possible with Bush in office -- a fact that worries many pro-"choice" organizations.[/quote]

Actually, the judge's position wouldn't be necessary if the bill passed by Congress was an amendment to the Constitution.

[Crusader_4]

conversion one by one...thats key let people open their hearts and their minds will change with it.

[qfnol31]

I don't care for our current setup of government, though technically abortion is illegal.

[Tora-Musume]

[quote name='almah19' date='Jul 31 2004, 12:44 PM'] Thirdly, where im from the law is that you can have an abortion up to 24 weeks because they say that the baby is not developed enough to be considered a 'proper life'. I dont have a clue about the development rates and ages of babies but a while back a woman gave birth to a baby at 23 or 24 weeks and the baby survives. So if a baby can survive at that age outside of the womb how can they say that it is o.k to abort it? [/quote]
Not all babies can survive in a womans womb when the woman has health problems. It is sad to say that sometimes a woman is given a chose to either abort the baby since the baby is not going to be healthy or not going to live. My mother had to make a chose to abort her babies. Yes..babies (twins). The babies where making my mother very ill to a point where she could have lost her life. My mother was devistated about loosing her children, but she had no chose. Either loose her babies or loose herself and her babies.

[Guest John 14:6]

greatings in the name of the LORD JESUS !!
Hola people I am new and just wanted to say whats up ?! and say that abortion is murder plain and simple and really does'nt matter what people believe because Truth is Truth !! It is very intoerant ! 2+2=4 not 6 not 3456 not 1 not 234523 !
2+2=4 God siad its murder :-) so its murder !

Have an awesme day !
God Bless
in the LORD JESUS CHRIST !
Daniel
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www.needGOD.com

[Tora-Musume]

[quote name='John 14:6' date='Aug 2 2004, 08:20 AM'] greatings in the name of the LORD JESUS !!
Hola people I am new and just wanted to say whats up ?! and say that abortion is murder plain and simple and really does'nt matter what people believe because Truth is Truth !! It is very intoerant ! 2+2=4 not 6 not 3456 not 1 not 234523 !
2+2=4 God siad its murder :-) so its murder !

[/quote]
If murder is agains GOD, then that would make the unborn child or children murderers due to the fact that the unborn had made the female unhealthy to a point that she will die.

Again, the story of my mother bearing twins. She carried the twins in her womb and she had an infection where the babies where not able to survive in her womb. She ended up in the hospital where they adviced her that they have to remove the babies do to this infection or she will die. My mother is Catholic and yes, she does not believe in abortion. But in this case, either her life or her unborn childrens lives. Does that make my mother a murderer? If she sacrificed her life for her babies, would that make her an accomplice to her murder? If the doctor's couldn't save her or the children, would the doctor's be murderers? NO. To me, my mother is a savior for saving herself from death and the doctor's are saviors because they saved my mother from death. She chose to give up her unborn children for the sake of her health.

[Theoketos]

[quote name='Madonna' date='Jul 30 2004, 11:53 PM'] That is like saying murder is always going to happen so we might as well make it legal and stop fighting.

Apathy is the slow and painful road to hell. [/quote]
I was going to write the same things, but add...


Hate is not the opposite of Love, apathy is.

[Tora-Musume]

This topic was answered for me but believe it or not, this is also being discusses in another discussion post. .