Dear God

[Mateo el Feo]

[quote name='dairygirl4u2c' date='Aug 3 2004, 11:06 AM'] When an egg is conceived it makes its way up the tube to be implanted. Half of all conceived eggs do not make this journey succesffully. [/quote]
Just out of curiousity, are you saying that scientific studies have shown the "half of all conceived eggs" assertion to be true?

My understanding was this is just scientific speculation. If you've got any NIH or similar links, I'd be grateful if you would share them.

I'm especially interested in how one could design an experiment to measure survival rates before implantation.

Thanks!

[Aloysius]

yeah seriously, it takes how long before they even know there's been a conception so how the heck do they know what's goin on prior to that point where they discover it!??!!

[MorphRC]

I remember reading some articles, that said the Church use to teach unbaptized babies go to hell or purgatory.

[Guest JeffCR07]

Morph, the Church has never taught that "unbaptized babies go to hell or purgatory," it has only speculated as to their fate. My discussion with Amarkich above is a wonderful example of such "speculative theology" as the answer has not been divinely revealed.

- Your Brother In Christ, Jeff

[Guest JeffCR07]

Adam, I was going to PM you, but I vaguely remember you saying that you could not receive PM's so I am typing this here. If I am wrong about the PM thing, please tell me.

From the COUNCIL OF TRENT SIXTH SESSION celebrated on the thirteenth day of January, 1547; Chapter XIV:

[quote]Hence, it must be taught that the repentance of a Christian after his fall is very different from that at his baptism, and that it includes not only a determination to avoid sins and a hatred of them, or a contrite and humble heart,[85] but also the sacramental confession of those sins, [b]at least in desire[/b], to be made in its season, and sacerdotal absolution, as well as satisfaction by fasts, alms, prayers and other devout exercises of the spiritual life, not indeed for the eternal punishment, which is, together with the guilt, remitted either by the sacrament [b]or by the desire of the sacrament[/b], but for the temporal punishment which, as the sacred writings teach, is not always wholly remitted, as is done in baptism, to those who, ungrateful to the grace of God which they have received, have grieved the Holy Ghost[86] and have not feared to violate the temple of God.[87][/quote]

Three entries in the Catechism are (I think) important for clarification:

[quote]1452 When it arises from a love by which God is loved above all else, contrition is called "perfect" (contrition of charity). Such contrition remits venial sins; it also obtains forgiveness of mortal sins if it includes the firm resolution to have recourse to sacramental confession as soon as possible.[/quote]

[quote]1453 The contrition called "imperfect" (or "attrition") is also a gift of God, a prompting of the Holy Spirit. It is born of the consideration of sin's ugliness or the fear of eternal damnation and the other penalties threatening the sinner (contrition of fear). Such a stirring of conscience can initiate an interior process which, under the prompting of grace, will be brought to completion by sacramental absolution. By itself however, imperfect contrition cannot obtain the forgiveness of grave sins, but it disposes one to obtain forgiveness in the sacrament of Penance.[/quote]

Here we have the differentiation between imperfect and perfect contrition, and their varying degrees of efficaciousness (is that a word? lol). So we see that perfect contrition can remove even mortal sins, while imperfect contrition cannot.

[QUOTE]1457 According to the Church's command, "after having attained the age of discretion, each of the faithful is bound by an obligation faithfully to confess serious sins at least once a year." Anyone who is aware of having committed a mortal sin must not receive Holy Communion, even if he experiences deep contrition, without having first received sacramental absolution, unless he has a grave reason for receiving Communion and there is no possibility of going to confession. Children must go to the sacrament of Penance before receiving Holy Communion for the first time.QUOTE]

It is in this quote, however, that we see that perfect contrition is what is being referred to in the 14th Chapter of Trent's Sixth Session. We see implied that perfect contrition necessitates a desire for the sacrament of confession and so can only be considered a valid remission of sins in grave circumstances (when he is unable to receive confession before his death. If a person has ample time to receive the sacrament, but rather, trusts in his "contrition" as being a [i]substitute[/i] for the sacrament and thus removing its necessity, this contrition is by its nature imperfect and cannot remove mortal sin.

I hope this is what you were looking for!

- Your Brother In Christ, Jeff

[Tora-Musume]

Dear GOD,
Why is it that we shall not have other GOD's but you?

Gotta Love Me!

[MichaelFilo]

Because, thats like going up to your mother and going, can Suzy's mom be my biological mother from now on. Your mother would be hurt by such a preposal, and Suzy's mom as being your biological mom may be accepted by everyone, but it doesn't make it true.

Same with fake gods. We leave the real God for whatever we want. While we may accept it and others may too, there is still only your real God, and only Him will there be any answering to.

God bless,

Mikey

[Tora-Musume]

[quote name='MichaelFilo' date='Aug 6 2004, 02:33 AM'] Because, thats like going up to your mother and going, can Suzy's mom be my biological mother from now on. Your mother would be hurt by such a preposal, and Suzy's mom as being your biological mom may be accepted by everyone, but it doesn't make it true.

Same with fake gods. We leave the real God for whatever we want. While we may accept it and others may too, there is still only your real God, and only Him will there be any answering to.

God bless,

Mikey [/quote]
If I found my biological mother, my adopted parents will not be hurt. They are actually helping me.

So you are setting an example meaning that my adopted parents are fake...since they are not my real parents that is.

Gotta Love Me!

[Aloysius]

what if you went up to your adopted parents and said: i want these two statues to be my parents from now on, not you! that's what it'd be like

Pax

[MichaelFilo]

[quote name='Tora-Musume' date='Aug 6 2004, 03:48 AM'] If I found my biological mother, my adopted parents will not be hurt. They are actually helping me.

So you are setting an example meaning that my adopted parents are fake...since they are not my real parents that is.

Gotta Love Me! [/quote]
I used biological in the sense that you are denying your actual mom her title. In the case of parents who adopted you, imagine going over to Suzy's mom and asking her to be your adopted parent from now on. Your adopted parents would care. Aloysius however gives a better example.

God bless,

Mikey

[Tora-Musume]

I am not denying my biological mother. She chose to give us up where our father had to raise us. Yes, my biological father gave me up for adoption, but it was not like giving me up like my mother did. He had a good reason. We were living in poverty. From what I was told, my mother chose to leave us because she didn't want to take care of children. She wanted to live her life without children. We wanted her, but she did not want us.

Gotta Love Me!