cmotherofpirl Posted September 12, 2003 Posted September 12, 2003 Mat 12:32 Anyone who says something against the Son of Man can be forgiven; but whoever says something against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven---now or ever. Either the Spirit is right or man is right. You either have one Church founded by Jesus Christ and infallibly protected by the Holy Spirit, or you have many little groups started by many differnet people long after Jesus died. Take your pick. I vote for the Holy Spirit.
foundsheep Posted September 13, 2003 Posted September 13, 2003 James says, "Faith without works is dead." Christ also says, "Whatever you do to the least of my brethren, that you do unto me." Christ todl the rich young man who asked him what must be done to inherit eternal life to, "Keep the commandments." Also, I don't have time to type this all out, but read Mathew 25: 31-46. God Bless. Faith within itself is a work. It takes both will and intellect.
skuba steve Posted September 13, 2003 Author Posted September 13, 2003 Either the Spirit is right or man is right. You either have one Church founded by Jesus Christ and infallibly protected by the Holy Spirit, or you have many little groups started by many differnet people long after Jesus died. Take your pick. I vote for the Holy Spirit. So the spirit that lives in me and speaks to and through me all the time isn't the holy spirit??? MAybe i have a demon???? Or maybe you are speaking against the Holy Spirit.
cmotherofpirl Posted September 13, 2003 Posted September 13, 2003 Do you think the Holy Spirit is guiding hundreds of different Churchs to believe different things? Do you believe the Holy Spirit can contradict intself? Its s simple logical question. Either the Holy Spirit is right or all therdifferent Churches with contradicting truths are right. Which is it?
skuba steve Posted September 14, 2003 Author Posted September 14, 2003 or maybe you are just very niave concerning the state of the church in the world...?
jasJis Posted September 14, 2003 Posted September 14, 2003 Steve, Why can't, or why won't you answer CMom's direct question?
skuba steve Posted September 15, 2003 Author Posted September 15, 2003 the holy spirit is right.... happy? You can tell a church is filled with the Holy spirit if it displays all of the fruits of the spirit.... off the top of my head, they are: Love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, humilty and self control. i think faithfulness too.... My church is filled with the spirit. My church has the favour of God upon it. But don't just outright judge all the denominations because they have a different name.... there are some whacked ones, but there are also some whack catholic spinoffs too. Most of the pentacostal churches are exactly the same.... they don't disagree on everything. When we put on a youth event in our area... we did a conference 2 days ago actually... and there was 11 churches and probably about 5 different denominations represented.... there is unity. Kinda like, every person in the world isn't called steve.... doesn't mean that they are bad people, they just have a different name... Ya know, if you type in phatmass in msn... you get this: "A Catholic website that focuses on unity among all religions" hmmmmm....... ciao
dUSt Posted September 22, 2003 Posted September 22, 2003 "A Catholic website that focuses on unity among all religions" I think that's the perfect description of what phatmass is all about.
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