Brother Adam Posted August 8, 2004 Posted August 8, 2004 What is the relationship between the essance and the specific? Better put, if trees ceased to exist, would "treeness" or the essance, cease to exist?
Thy Geekdom Come Posted August 8, 2004 Posted August 8, 2004 LOL This was the topic of an entire lecture in philosophy class...and we used a tree as the example... I think it's up for philosophical debate. It really depends on what makes "treeness" a category. If what makes it a category is the existence of actual trees, then the essence would not exist if there were no trees. However, if what makes it a category is a specific series of characteristics (leafy, woody, complex root system, etc.) then the category could exist even without actual trees because a person, knowing of these individual characteristics from various other sources, could conceive of what we know to be a tree.
Mrs. Bro. Adam Posted August 10, 2004 Posted August 10, 2004 [quote name='Brother Adam' date='Aug 8 2004, 02:08 AM'] What is the relationship between the essance and the specific? Better put, if trees ceased to exist, would "treeness" or the essance, cease to exist? [/quote]
theculturewarrior Posted August 10, 2004 Posted August 10, 2004 I've often wonder if we ourselves are kind of "transubstantiated" by the Eucharist. I know that sounds strange, and you know I submit to the Church... But we become the Body of Christ through the Eucharist. If Jesus was God with the "accidents" of a man, and if the Eucharist is God with the "accidents" of bread and wine...are we the Body of Christ with our own individual accidents? Probably not, I know, but I have wondered.
Carnanc Posted August 10, 2004 Posted August 10, 2004 (edited) I don't know any philosophy but that tree thing sounds really interesting Edited August 10, 2004 by slywakka250
homeschoolmom Posted August 10, 2004 Posted August 10, 2004 the topic would be more fun if where you wrote "tree" you'd have written "chocolate" instead...
theculturewarrior Posted August 10, 2004 Posted August 10, 2004 Not to digress, but my sister useta work in a chocolate factory. Guess what her job was...
Brother Adam Posted August 10, 2004 Author Posted August 10, 2004 You bunch of Philosophical amatuars.
zwergel88 Posted August 10, 2004 Posted August 10, 2004 [quote]Just reading the question made my brain hurt.[/quote] me too, and this whole tree coversation kinda scares me, really freaky
Lil Red Posted August 10, 2004 Posted August 10, 2004 oh, and btw, i believe the title of this thread is misleading, because it implies there is fun to be had. :nono: it is wrong!
Brother Adam Posted August 10, 2004 Author Posted August 10, 2004 You are looking at the very question philosophers discussed from Aristotle to Aquanis (so I'm told)
Brother Adam Posted August 10, 2004 Author Posted August 10, 2004 And "treeness" is part of a greater essance, God's essance, so the essance continues to exist
Thy Geekdom Come Posted August 11, 2004 Posted August 11, 2004 [quote name='Brother Adam' date='Aug 10 2004, 07:58 PM'] And "treeness" is part of a greater essance, God's essance, so the essance continues to exist [/quote] Haha...probably Aquinas... I only got through the ancient philosopher's takes on it... Philosophy rocks! Hey, Brother Adam, if you like philosophy, read St. Bonaventure's [u]Journey of the Mind to God[/u]...it's brilliant...
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