What Did Bush Say About Outsourcing Jobs?

[jasJis]

I'm really confused about all this. Back in the 70's, we started importing Japanese cars because American manufacturers would not and then could not, produce a quality small car for a competitive price. What's wrong with the consumer's wanting a car that cost less than $6,000 (a ton back then) that got more than 12 miles per gallon. Only Toyota and Datsun and Honda made cheap small cars that weren't total junk. Does anyone know what an AMC Gremlin is? Who remembers the Ford Pinto?

Consumers now adays want incredible luxury and don't want to have to work for it. It was luxury to have power windows and AC, much less have electric seats, FM/Cassette radios (no CD's). Now, you expect a CD with all power in a basci Huyndai. People also aren't willing to do any "low paying" jobs. I'm in construction, and can't find people willing to start at $10 an hour with the opportunity to be making $20+ in a few years. I hired an 18 year old who begged me for the job at $9. He never made more than $7.5 in his life and he quit the next day because it was "too hard". When I was unemployed a few months ago, I worked twice as hard, for $10, and I'm more than twice his age and had been doing office work for the last 15+ years.

People don't want to do low pay jobs because they want prestiege and 'bling'. Young people rarely want to work for it. And excuse me, going to college for 4-6 years isn't the same as job experience or work ethic. You earned a degree reflecting knowledge. That degree has little to do with your abilty and nothing at all with your experience in actually performing the job. I've fired many a college grad that couldn't handle the responsibility of being a ditch digger, but they believe they should be in an office somewhere making $45K a year and never consider what value they offer to a company for that kind of pay. If a company pays you $40 grand, you should be earning them close to $80 grand to pay for your pay, employer payroll taxes, the office space and overhead the company has to provide (like the HR person, payroll person, etc., etc.) and still the company might profit only a few percentage off you. Have you ever made a mistake that cost the company money? How about when a co-worker makes a mistake?

The economics are close when it comes to outsourcing jobs. It's hugely expensive to train and manage people halfway accross the world. Do you thing airports, roads, and office building in India are just like Clevelands? What do you think it really costs to have a sophisticated phone system installed in India? Do they have Circuit Citys or Best Buys there where it's common for people to pick up LCD monitors for their personal computer in the extra den at home? If somebody told his next door neighboor in INdia that he only had one 19" color TV, with remote and a VCR and basic cable, they wouldn't think they were poor. In the US, we've got people feeling sorry for somebody who shared that with us and we'd think they're incredibly poor.

[MagiDragon]

[quote name='Good Friday' date='Aug 27 2004, 01:01 AM']First, I don't know what this is doing here.  This couldn't be more [b]remote[/b] from Catholicism if it tried to be.  [/quote]


That's right! Character, morals and integrity have no part in the Catholic Church! We've got to stop people from thinking that issues dealing with morality should be discussed on this board!

[quote]But I suppose it's all a part of the Republican takeover of Phatmass.[/quote]
I'm afraid you've got it backwards: it's the Republican's support of morality that has caused Catholics to become Republican; not the Republicans 'taking over' the Church, nor Phatmass. 40 years ago, the Democrats were the party of choice for nearly all Catholics, but since then the Republicans have ceased their anti-Catholic stances, and have come in line with all *required* Church stances. Unfortunately, there's still room for improvement.

GF, think about the whole issue before you complain that someone's off-topic.

Peace,
Joe