MichaelFilo Posted August 29, 2004 Posted August 29, 2004 [quote name='BLAZEr' date='Aug 29 2004, 01:52 PM'] I'm sorry Michael, you are wrong when you say "God is with the faithful, always. In His Real Presence, he is not differnt than before, except now he is phsyically tangiable." This is a heresy. God is not with us anywhere like he is with us in the Blessed Sacrament. It is a totally unique and completely unrepeatable way for Christ to be with us since his Ascencion. Even the often (poorly) quoted verse "Where two or three are gathered in my name" is not about him being physically present with him. That verse is about the Authority of the Church. If you read the rest of the passage you will see that. Christ is with us in a singular way in the Blessed Sacrament and it is a Sacred Moment, it is absurd to do mundane things during sacred moments. Honestly, Adoration of Christ while his Sacred Body is in exposition is a liturgical act (which is why it is preceded by the Rite of Exposition and reposed with the Rite of Solemn Benediction). The problem with Perpetual Adoration, as I see it, is that this fact is forgotten. People think Christ is always there and they can go and do anything they want while they have their hour with him. At the same time, there are situations where taking your homework to the Chapel is acceptable, even if its Math or Science or whatever. I can imagine that if you are having a particularly diffictult time understanding something and would like to Beg Christ's help in prayer for your understanding, it would be appropriate to take your work and even study it in his presence with the prayer that His Divine Wisdom illumine your dim and dusty mind. However doing your homework regularly in the Adoration Chapel is a grave lack of respect. I have read all of Pope John Paul II's statements about Adoration and the Eucharist and never, not once, has he suggested that we go these moments of inticmacy with Christ and take our secular work. He gives you the Strength to do your secular work . . . but it is secular work. It should be done where it is supposed to be done. The problem is that our generation has become so darn lazy and irreverent . . . we don't even know the when we are being irreverent and lazy. [/quote] Blazer, I am sorry if you somehow figured I said that at adoration, it is just like everywhere else God is. I said God is still God, weather he is in the blessed Sacrament, or he is Jesus, AD 33, dieing on the Cross for us. He is our Teacher always. I would never, ever, somehow say that Christ in the Blessed Sacrament is the same as He is in Omnipotence. I hope this cleared up what I said. You'll also notice that I said I drew back my point about homework, saying that only if you need help it maybe acceptable. I am only 15, being irreverant becaus eof the generation I am in isn't totally my fault. Where have I learned about Adoration outside of Adoration? I haven't. I just knew Jesus was the peice of bread I saw. Through Faith, I understood that he is God, and why he is there. I did this with research. I never got anyone formally explaining it to me. I don't know Adoration manners. If I did, I'm sure I wouldn't of said what I said. However, I did think it over, and took back doing homework as a possibility. It maybe good for help. However, the only reason that I said thi sis because, we often times read religious books. Is this irreverant? It maybe, if you make going to Adoration for that specific reason. Same with homework. God bless, Mikey
BLAZEr Posted August 29, 2004 Posted August 29, 2004 Mikey, I wasn't trying to single you to for the irreverent comment. i think it's true about all of us . . . we don't treat sacred space and sacred moments with the care we should use . . . we are all guilty (I'm 10 years older than you). That's why I said its the curse of our generation . . . our parents have been so lax in their practice of the faith that we don't even know how we're supposed to treat these moments! Doing spiritual reading is not a bad thing during adoration . . . in fact, it's a great thing. However, we need to learn to allow our prayer time to be prayer time and not think that because we are supposed to pray with out ceasing that are not supposed to cease what we are doing and pray. Sorry, I didn't mean to be harsh, bud . . . sometimes I come down like an iron fist when a satin glove is all that is needed.
MichaelFilo Posted August 29, 2004 Posted August 29, 2004 That last line was, poeticly beautiful. Now back to where we were. I can agree, it really leads to serious misunderstanding of the Sacrament if we aren't shown properly. Blazer, may I ask why you don't post much? God bless, Mikey
Theoketos Posted August 29, 2004 Posted August 29, 2004 Just a thought...An hour of Study is an hour of prayer...
BLAZEr Posted August 29, 2004 Posted August 29, 2004 I don't post much because I'm busy . . . however, if you will notice .. . I do have almost 3,000 posts . . . once upon a time I was a posting fiend . .. only to be outdone by Flowery and Hyper . .. but others were more consistent than me . . . and I got busy and posting slowed down . .. back in Februrary, Foundsheep and I were neck and neck for 3,000 . . . then he broke ahead and I pretty much stayed where I was . . . Ah, the posting wars . . .
BLAZEr Posted August 29, 2004 Posted August 29, 2004 [quote name='Theoketos' date='Aug 29 2004, 02:11 PM'] Just a thought...An hour of Study is an hour of prayer... [/quote] Amen . . . the monks say . .. "Ora et Labora" Prayer and Work . . . because both can be offered to God as an oblation . . . The missionaries of Charity are cool, they always pray when they work . . . but when they pray . . . they really pray . . . no other stuff there . . . They said it to me this way "When we work we want to be with Jesus in the Blessed sacrament but we can't be, when we are with Him, we want nothing else to distract us." That was Sr. Joy in the Bronx . . . she rocks the Qasbah . . . Does anyone know Sr. Joy? She's the Rosary queen!
Sinner Posted August 29, 2004 Posted August 29, 2004 You are making me think again....... this is starting to hurt.
Theoketos Posted August 30, 2004 Posted August 30, 2004 Ok, I think that agree with you blazer, I am just playing the devil's advocate... So let us suppouse that you do not subsitute your hour with the Blessed Sacrament with no distractions, but you simply are able to do all your homework in front of Jesus (with out distracting any one).
mattosika Posted August 30, 2004 Posted August 30, 2004 I always used to do my homework during adoration, I would spend half hour praying and offer up the work I was supposed to do, ask God to reveal all the importance of the work, and reveal how he works through all things even homework. Plus I found during adoration it was the only really peaceful quite place where I could fully concentrate, without being distracted
reelguy227 Posted August 30, 2004 Posted August 30, 2004 Jesus deserves our full attention during adoration ,its like if you were standing in front of God ,would you look away from Him ? same thing.
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