Hello, I Do Rep The Church

[jmjtina]

Without totally hijacking this thread....White Knight, I encourage you to go [url="http://phorum.phatmass.com/index.php?showtopic=5421&view=findpost&p=85313"]Here[/url] read, and read some more!!! and make a new thread in the debate table about what you think. I won't totally hijack this thread even though I posted like 100000 words about the Mother of God!

I can see mulls, "you turned my thread into a marian thread?!!!"

It would be a great discussion!


Just think, the Pope is visiting Lourdes, where the Blessed Mother appeared, to pray to her! There is a reason!

Edited September 2, 2004 by jmjtina

[MichaelFilo]

[quote name='White Knight' date='Sep 1 2004, 08:49 PM'] So your saying you have to acknowolege Mary and Jesus to represent Just Jesus?

I thought you just have to acknowolege Jesus as the Son of God, who lived a Sinless life, who died on the cross for our sins, the one who rose again on the third and glorious day, the one that also ascended on high to sit at the Right Hand of God the Father, and the one who is coming back?

I do realize you need to believe in the Virgin birth thats an obvious, but to have Mary mother of Jesus involved in prayer isn't neccessary, just to acknowolege The One, The Only, [b]Jesus Christ, The Son of God, The Second Member of the Holy Trinity.[/b]


I'm not attacking or anything, but I just dont see the need to have Mary in a prayer, when really your only suspost to be praying to the Holy Trinity the One God.


I love Mary for what she bore on this earth 2000 years ago, but I dont pray to her.
I pray to God, directly. [/quote]
In removing the role of the saints and Mary to intercede for us, you are rejecting their role they for us Christians. They are with God, and when they ask God, surely, he'd consider it more, especially from his devout Mother.

THe Church is the body of Christ... there is no salvation outside Christ. The 2 are inseprable.

Please consider this. You reject protestantism, and trade it for some shabby form of rejection of the Church. Accept it 100%, embrace it. You know it's the only 100% deposit of Truth, I can tell by your posts, so why not walk hand in hand with Christ?

God bless,

Mikey

[White Knight]

I will Research is what I want.... so I can understand the Catholic Faith and teachings, but I dont really have all the proof I need yet, and deep prayer and thought need to be put into this. before I can even think about coming over.

Edited September 2, 2004 by White Knight

[P3chrmd]

Im tellin ya...you don't know what your missing with Mary!!! Shes a great mom if you let her!

[MorphRC]

[quote name='jasJis' date='Aug 30 2004, 11:25 PM']

stuff [/quote]
[quote]Morph,
That's not very nice and not really true.  It IS the same Christ, but mulls (as do all non-Catholic Christians) doesn't share the fullness of understanding Christ that the Catholic Church does.[/quote]

... Yeah I know... I cant be stuffed answering this.

[jasJis]

Dude,
I'm not picking on ya. No need to get your knickers in a twist.

[JESOd]

i might be wrong, but I'm pretty sure praying to Mary is not required by the Church, only *highly* recommended. And I agree with WhiteKnight... I don't go through Mary either.

Edited September 3, 2004 by JESOd

[Aloysius]

well, Mary is your mom. YOUR SPIRITUAL MOTHER. Jesus wants you to have her as your spiritual mother. He wanted it so much that while He was suffering on the Cross He took some of His last moments of earthly life through great struggling to give her to you and you to her. [i]The Holy Gospel According to Saint John, Chapter 19, Verses 26 and 27[/i]

through her the Lord is magnified. [i]The Holy Gospel According to Saint Luke, Chapter 1, Verse 46[/i] through her heart are the thoughts of many revealed. [i]The Holy Gospel According to Saint Luke, Chapter 2, Verse 35[/i]

Christ came into the world through her, and Christ continues to choose to go through her to get to you because of her beauty and splendor above all created things. It is not a matter of whether or not you choose to go to Him through her, but rather, He chooses to come to you through her.

[Livin_the_MASS]

[quote]"I don't rep the Catholic Church but I do rep Christ"[/quote]

How can you truly rep Christ if you don't rep the Church He founded?

The Catholic Church.

God Bless
Jason

[Oik]

There is only one Christ. However, various people have left the authority of the Church and have created there own version of Christ. I'm sure this is what Morph is referring to.

For instance, John Kerry has his own version of Christ and Catholicism.
Also, Luther did as well. Dan Brown definatly has his own version of Christ.

Still, the Church holds (and a ways will) the fullness of Truth.

[White Knight]

Its morally wrong to have a denomination of anykind, to make up their own version of Christ, when they sould really stick towards the bibicial account the bibical version of Jesus, not Islamic, not Buddism, not pegan etc etc, Its wrong to make up your own version of Jesus Christ.


You sould accept him for who he is.

Thats for anyone who didn't catch MorphRC's Original first page post.