Shopping On Sundays

[MagiDragon]

I saw the thread about working on Sundays, but I think it should prolly apply to shopping on Sundays also: it causes *others* to have to work.

Peace,
Joe

[IanuaCaeli]

I think you have pretty much summed up the argument--because of the fact that shopping on Sunday forces others to work, it is unacceptable. I think everyone would agree that shopping for clothing is unnecessary servile work, but some people would say that it is acceptable to go shopping for necessary food. The fact of the matter is that supermarkets should be closed on Sunday, anyway, so it would be impossible to shop there. In any event, there is never an absolute need to buy food on Sunday; one can simply eat what is at home. It is impractical to assume that someone could plan so poorly as to have no food to eat on Sundays (thus making the shopping permissible). If one were to plan that poorly, he should offer up his suffering which was caused by his own fault to begin with.

[MagiDragon]

perhaps, but I'm not really sure. I think if a person is traveling, or in a natural disaster it would be conceivable that they would not have an opportunity to prepare like normal. In this case, i could see buying food.

I'm also pretty sure that a pharmacy should be open on Sundays, and that the workers should simply take their day of rest one day early or late. (but still meet their mass obligation!)

[CreepyCrawler]

well, not everyone is christian. i know that in some places where there absolutely have to be people working 24/7, people of different religions will 'swap' days. for example, a christian will work on saturday for a jewish person, and he'll work on sunday for that christian person. or, a hindu person will work on christmas and the christian will work on the day that the hindu needs off.

some people NEED to work on sunday b/c they are so poor (esp. if their work offers them time and a half and their family is starving) and so you don't know if you're causing a person to sin (if they'r christian) or if you you're helping them to feed their families.

[MagiDragon]

[quote name='CreepyCrawler' date='Sep 6 2004, 05:08 PM']some people NEED to work on sunday b/c they are so poor (esp. if their work offers them time and a half and their family is starving) and so you don't know if you're causing a person to sin (if they'r christian) or if you you're helping them to feed their families.[/quote]
(Please note: the poll is about shopping, not working.)

I like what i think your sentiment is here: we should never judge anyone without knowing their full circumstances. But, I think other parts of your statement may be incorrect both economically and theologically.

Economically, if we don't go shopping for something we need on Sunday, we'll likely buy it on some other day. This would mean that the sales would stay constant but the cost to the business would decrease because they wouldn't need to incur the liability of having a person there without customers as often. This would enable a company to (theoretically) pay the same dollar amount for less time.

Theologically, if we don't know if we are causing a person to sin, we should probably err on the side of caution. Also, the commandments still apply to non-Judaic religions, they just don't have to be taken *quite* as literally in some cases: All people regardless of religion should have a day of rest, be that on Sunday, Wednesday, or Thursday.

Another thing to consider is trust in God. I think God will take care of anyone who does what they think is right. (assuming they *try* to inform their conscience.)

Peace,
Joe

[Sinner]

Just shop another day....... or better yet, never. Always better to get someone else to do your shopping. .........

[MagiDragon]

[qfnol31]

You cause people like me to work on Sundays if you go out for no reason a lot..

Edited September 7, 2004 by qfnol31

[jmjtina]

Where I work, we are closed on Sundays......

did I mention the owners were Catholic?

[yiannii]

I might be offered a position where I work which involves working on Sunday. I'm not sure whether I should accept or reject. I need this position because it will provide me with stability and security throughout all my University years - but I can always find another job, but none would offer me a position as convenient as this one.

[HartfordWhalers]

[quote name='yiannii' date='Sep 7 2004, 06:03 AM'] I might be offered a position where I work which involves working on Sunday. I'm not sure whether I should accept or reject. I need this position because it will provide me with stability and security throughout all my University years - but I can always find another job, but none would offer me a position as convenient as this one. [/quote]
You cannot accept it. To do so would be to chose your worldly wants over God Himself. The Church teaches that no work on Sunday not to necessity can be done. She forbids ownders to be open on Sunday if their jobs are not of necessity, such as a fireman.

"Where I work, we are closed on Sundays......

did I mention the owners were Catholic?"

That is wonderful that your owners follow what the Church teaches! So many reject this teaching of the Church. You are blessed to have such great owners.

[Deeds]

I work on Sundays. I need the money. I'd much rather rest all day but needs must.

(Oh and it is unnecessary work - waitressing.)

[littleflower+JMJ]

shopping is a cruel and unusual punishment.....






j/k

[Ellenita]

When I was involved in a protestant church years ago and it was my responsibility to buy the bread for communion I forgot one week and bought it on the way to church on Sunday morning!! I did feel really bad about it though especially as church members had campaigned against the Sunday Trading laws......I never told anyone that before! :ph34r:

Of course it was easy to forget you were on the rota to buy the bread as we didn't have communion every week......

[cmotherofpirl]

I go shopping every Sunday, its called a flea market

[MagiDragon]

[quote name='HartfordWhalers' date='Sep 7 2004, 10:45 AM'] You cannot accept it. To do so would be to chose your worldly wants over God Himself. The Church teaches that no work on Sunday not to necessity can be done. She forbids ownders to be open on Sunday if their jobs are not of necessity, such as a fireman. [/quote]
That's kindof harsh. I'd be willing to bet that the early Christians wouldn't have worked regardless of what happened to their personal convenience, but at the same time i'd have trouble advising anyone that they *can't* accept such a job.

Peace,
Joe

[XIX]

[quote name='HartfordWhalers' date='Sep 7 2004, 10:45 AM'] You cannot accept it. To do so would be to chose your worldly wants over God Himself. The Church teaches that no work on Sunday not to necessity can be done. She forbids ownders to be open on Sunday if their jobs are not of necessity, such as a fireman. [/quote]
That's uber harsh. Working for financial stability = working out of necesity.

There are ways to revere Sunday even if you have a job. I mean, it's not like you can be expected to work 24 hours.