Apotheoun Posted September 13, 2004 Posted September 13, 2004 For theological and anthropological reasons I avoid scripture translations that are "gender neutral." I prefer the RSV Catholic edition of the Bible.
kateri05 Posted September 13, 2004 Posted September 13, 2004 (edited) [quote name='Apotheoun' date='Sep 13 2004, 06:29 PM'] For theological and anthropological reasons I avoid scripture translations that are "gender neutral." I prefer the RSV Catholic edition of the Bible. [/quote] i agree; the inspired Word of God wasn't gender neutral, so clearly God didn't mean for it to be that way. and if people aren't intelligent enough to infer that when St. Paul (or whoever) says mankind, hes referring to EVERYONE, in this Church where we are neither "male nor female, slave nor free, Jew nor Greek," than that is THEIR problem, not the translation. :angry: i mean, this is the same Church of the same Jesus Christ who had women for friends, whose first witness to the Resurrection was a woman. CLEARLY, we are inclusive! Edited September 13, 2004 by kateri05
Ellenita Posted September 14, 2004 Posted September 14, 2004 [quote]I prefer the RSV Catholic edition of the Bible. [/quote] You need to be careful when you are buying this translation too as there is also a [b]NEW[/b] RSV which has inclusive language! Just as there is a [b]new[/b] English Bible and presumably a [b]new[/b] American Bible....... [quote]hey bro adam, cant you return it and get a REGULAR jerusalem bible? sounds like its the new one thats phishy. i dont know if you still have the receipt.... [/quote] Good luck with trying to find a copy of the old version Bro Adam - there isn't a book store in London that does it as far as I've been able to discover, and that includes the Catholic bookshops. I've been trying to find a replacement copy for the one that I bought in 1979 - it's most frustrating!
Mr. Cube Posted September 14, 2004 Posted September 14, 2004 [b][u]The Jerusalem Bible, Reader's Edition[/u][/b], which has a nihil obstat and imprimatur, was reprinted by Doubleday in 2000. You can order it from any bookstore; the [b]ISBN[/b] number is [b]0-385-49918-3[/b]. It's not gender-neutral. I hope you enjoy it, it's a beautiful bible.
Apotheoun Posted September 14, 2004 Posted September 14, 2004 [quote name='Ellenita' date='Sep 13 2004, 05:22 PM'] You need to be careful when you are buying this translation too as there is also a [b]NEW[/b] RSV which has inclusive language! [/quote] Yes, be sure to get the Ignatius Bible (RSV Catholic edition), it is the older RSV (not the NRSV) and does not use inclusive language. It is published by Ignatius Press.
MorphRC Posted September 14, 2004 Posted September 14, 2004 What is rendered for Luke 1:28 in the RSVCE?
homeschoolmom Posted September 14, 2004 Posted September 14, 2004 I think it's Hail, O favored one... but I'm not positive...
MorphRC Posted September 14, 2004 Posted September 14, 2004 I dont why the Church or people in the Church allow the continued mistranslation of that.
Apotheoun Posted January 11, 2005 Posted January 11, 2005 [quote name='MorphRC' date='Sep 14 2004, 01:08 AM'] What is rendered for Luke 1:28 in the RSVCE? [/quote] The translation of Luke 1:28 in the RSV is, "And he came to her and said, 'Hail, O favored one, the Lord is with you!'"; while in the RSVCE it is translated as, "And he came to her and said, 'Hail, [i]full of grace[/i], the Lord is with you!'"
Apotheoun Posted January 11, 2005 Posted January 11, 2005 [quote name='myduwigd' date='Jan 11 2005, 09:51 AM'] why is it called the New Jerusalem Bible? [/quote] The RSVCE isn't the New Jerusalem Bible. The New Jerusalem Bible is a revision of the Jerusalem Bible.
cathqat Posted January 11, 2005 Posted January 11, 2005 [quote name='MorphRC' date='Sep 14 2004, 11:30 AM'] I dont why the Church or people in the Church allow the continued mistranslation of [Luke 1:28]. [/quote] In defense of translators: English does not have the vocabulary necessary to accurately translate the phrase "[i]Chaire, kecharitomene![/i]" Different English translations have their own advantages and disadvantages, but no English translation is truly "right."
cathqat Posted January 11, 2005 Posted January 11, 2005 [quote name='myduwigd' date='Jan 11 2005, 11:51 AM'] why is it called the New Jerusalem Bible? [/quote] Because it is based on the older Jerusalem Bible (for which J.R.R. Tolkien translated the book of Jonah), but has been more recently modified. It's a revision. Thus, "[i]New[/i] Jerusalem Bible."
ironmonk Posted January 11, 2005 Posted January 11, 2005 I think everyone should have a copy - or a link to - of: Douay-Rheims Bible New American Bible New Jerusalem Bible Douay-Rheims: [url="http://unbound.biola.edu/"]http://unbound.biola.edu/[/url] NAB: [url="http://www.usccb.org/nab/bible/"]http://www.usccb.org/nab/bible/[/url] New Jerusalem: [url="http://www.kofc.duq.edu/scripture/"]http://www.kofc.duq.edu/scripture/[/url] God Bless! ironmonk
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