mulls Posted September 14, 2004 Posted September 14, 2004 People around here keep giving their lives to Christ. They are hungry for God on this campus. But they're not becoming Catholic. With that being said, who is pleased with this fact.....God or the Devil?
Crusader_4 Posted September 14, 2004 Posted September 14, 2004 I think God is pleased they are turning to him...however dissapointed they are not experiencing truth in its fullest.
Apotheoun Posted September 14, 2004 Posted September 14, 2004 Hopefully they will eventually come into full communion with Christ's Catholic Church.
Mateo el Feo Posted September 14, 2004 Posted September 14, 2004 One might as well ask if God would be "pleased" with a polytheist or atheist who converted to some monotheistic religion like Judaism or Islam. Or, if some non-Christian embraced the Mormon Jesus...or the Arian Jesus...or the Gnostic Jesus. Would God be pleased? Are these all progressions from more error to less error? Just some thoughts...
HomeTeamFamily Posted September 14, 2004 Posted September 14, 2004 i agree.....gotta work in baby steps...plant the seed then let it grow
Paladin D Posted September 14, 2004 Posted September 14, 2004 In my opinion, I believe to an extent God is pleased, yet disappointed. You can compare it to a parent wanting their child to take a certain path, one which would be safer, easier (in a way), and completely fulfilling. While the child decides to take a different path that has similar traits, yet it's dangerous, harder, and not completely fulfilling. Don't know if that's a good analogy, but yet again it's almost [b]12:30am[/b].
White Knight Posted September 14, 2004 Posted September 14, 2004 Well as long as their coming to know him, then thats cool, but I also still think He wants us to go all the way, or do nothing at all.
DominaNostra Posted September 14, 2004 Posted September 14, 2004 Doesn't the Church say that God is not happy with us if we are not Catholic or something like that? or, isn't there a council that says that you have to be Catholic or otherwise you are not pleasing God? I think that was something in the Renaissance or Middle Ages. I also was told that anyone can please God if they are doing what they think is right, so I don't know really. I think that the Devil is happy if people aren't doing God's will, and if it is God's will to be Catholic, then I think that people who are not being Catholic are probably making the Devil happy. Does that make sense?
Theoketos Posted September 15, 2004 Posted September 15, 2004 The answer could be both are at the same time happy but one morns and the other is irate at the lack of completion in there plan. Also Mulls, I wonder how many people are in the RCIA program at your Newman Center. Jesus is my Savior, He takes away my Sin! He is saving me by faith! I am in His Catholic Church under the chair of Peter!
littleflower+JMJ Posted September 15, 2004 Posted September 15, 2004 teehee hope your button gets working okay theo.
mulls Posted September 15, 2004 Author Posted September 15, 2004 (edited) [quote name='Theoketos' date='Sep 15 2004, 01:44 PM'] Also Mulls, I wonder how many people are in the RCIA program at your Newman Center. [/quote] what do you mean "your" Newman Center? i'm not aware of any around here. Edited September 15, 2004 by mulls
Guest AloysiusGhost Posted September 15, 2004 Posted September 15, 2004 there's no newman center @ your college? are you sure?
Brother Adam Posted September 15, 2004 Posted September 15, 2004 I believe God is pleased when man takes steps towards the ultimate happiness- life in heaven with God. We can step towards God or we can make actions that step away from God. Any action towards the Ultimate Good - God - is naturally a good action. These good actions are pleasing to God when done for the right intentions. When a pagan moves from paganism to a non-Catholic Church that teaches the correct baptism and other correct truths, it is a good action towards God. The journey should not end though until they are in the fullness of truth. I believe on the flip side though if you are "saving" Catholics out of the Catholic faith and into heresy, it is a wrong action and is displeasing to God. However if they are not in the grace of God and cannot attain that grace of God immeaditely through the Catholic Church due to their predisposition and must first experience life outside the Church before reverting back into the Church, it may indeed be a step towards God. Bro. Adam
Ash Wednesday Posted September 15, 2004 Posted September 15, 2004 God is pleased when we respond to grace. The devil is pleased when we sin.
MichaelFilo Posted September 16, 2004 Posted September 16, 2004 [quote name='DominaNostra' date='Sep 14 2004, 11:22 AM'] Doesn't the Church say that God is not happy with us if we are not Catholic or something like that? or, isn't there a council that says that you have to be Catholic or otherwise you are not pleasing God? I think that was something in the Renaissance or Middle Ages. I also was told that anyone can please God if they are doing what they think is right, so I don't know really. I think that the Devil is happy if people aren't doing God's will, and if it is God's will to be Catholic, then I think that people who are not being Catholic are probably making the Devil happy. Does that make sense? [/quote] No, God would perfer that all become Catholic, but getting closer to God by understanding him as best as we can is ultimetly the goal. I learned much about God with the Blessed Sacrament, and I learn of His forgiveness everytime I go to confession, and there is much more to learn in all the sacraments. Adoration is one of the most powerful tools, I do believe. The fact of the matter is, however, that God likes it the closer we come, and the Catholic Church is as close as we can come, but it may take a few steps up. Ash said it in the best way possible. God bless, Mikey
homeschoolmom Posted September 16, 2004 Posted September 16, 2004 I agree with Brother Adam... it's just too long to quote, but pretty much exactly what I was going to say (only shorter... )
Theoketos Posted September 17, 2004 Posted September 17, 2004 Ok so you do not have a Newman center Man your univeristy Campus Ministry Web Page is whack ( I will not link to it because I fear it being luke warm Catholicish)...Almost seems univeralistic (oo no I sound like budge)...It is way to PC...No wonder you all have promblems with riots...sorry that last part was cheap shot. I thank you for the work that you do for Christ. Have you ever read the Last Battle?
homeschoolmom Posted September 17, 2004 Posted September 17, 2004 [quote name='Theoketos' date='Sep 17 2004, 12:04 PM'] I thank you for the work that you do for Christ. Have you ever read the Last Battle? [/quote] OOOoooo I love that book (my favorite in the series) Coincidently, I've been thinking about it a lot this last year... "further up and further in... "
RemnantRules Posted September 17, 2004 Posted September 17, 2004 Blessed Be God!!! Anybody who is wanting to take the plunge into the faith will learn there is more Truth out there, the fullness of truth. God Bless Jason Gregory RemnantRoadie
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