Azriel Posted September 24, 2003 Posted September 24, 2003 Is it just me, or is anyone else saddened by the turn of events in this section of our board? Has it really come down to this? Is is so very hard to be civilized and respectful to each other? We are all God's children, and like any phamily we are going to argue and disagree, and flame each other. But seriously folks, its getting out of hand. I think I'm going to bow out of reading the Debate table for awhile, it just makes me sad.
cmotherofpirl Posted September 24, 2003 Posted September 24, 2003 Can I borrow the hammer before you go?
Dave Posted September 24, 2003 Posted September 24, 2003 Azriel, when people come here and start mocking our beliefs, insulting us, and being downright rude, are we to just smile and say nothing? I mean, when they do that stuff, they're doing it to God. We as Catholics shouldn't tolerate it, and it should make us FURIOUS when people do that carp! And we must NEVER back down when it comes to the truth. I'm sorry for posting this instead of telling you this to your face (e.g. in an instant message), but you're not online right now. :(
cmotherofpirl Posted September 24, 2003 Posted September 24, 2003 I understand exactly how both of you feel. Words have become an occasion of sin. :(
Norseman82 Posted September 24, 2003 Posted September 24, 2003 It's very tricky, but sometimes we need to remember, as Cardinal George once said, that we can win the argument but lose the person. We must also remember that, being on the internet, there is the potential that millions - maybe billions - may be witnessing our conversations, so we should always have them in the back of our mind. That is the "Rule #1" that I've learned. As I said, it's tricky. Sometimes it may be necessary to go and get a cup of coffee before hitting the "reply" button to review if what we post is necessary to defend the truth or simply "heat of the moment" angry reactions. I've learned this the hard way on other boards, as I have been guilty in the past...
jasJis Posted September 24, 2003 Posted September 24, 2003 Dave, Two wrongs don't make a right. It quickly turned into protestant bashing as retaliation. The Catholic Church does not teach it is the SOLE repository of the Truth, but the Sole Complete repository. When we fall into denomination bashing, we also bash the Truth's that denomination teaches. Take Scripture. The 66 books they recognize is more than 90%. These people have come to know True God and Jesus. None of us know Him completely and need to grow in Grace. Mere arguements don't convince anyone.
Anna Posted September 24, 2003 Posted September 24, 2003 Dave is correct. A few on this board come on thinking that they know Catholics are lost sheep. They twist what we believe, what our Church teaches, mock her history, and pray long-winded prayers for our conversion to their error-filled ways, (not to mention the insulting links which have since been deleted) and we're just supposed to sit here and say kind things... Sorry. I'm just not feeling that... virtuous? lately... The slanderous remarks and snide comments generate more of the same...
Dave Posted September 24, 2003 Posted September 24, 2003 Dave, Two wrongs don't make a right. It quickly turned into protestant bashing as retaliation. The Catholic Church does not teach it is the SOLE repository of the Truth, but the Sole Complete repository. When we fall into denomination bashing, we also bash the Truth's that denomination teaches. Take Scripture. The 66 books they recognize is more than 90%. These people have come to know True God and Jesus. None of us know Him completely and need to grow in Grace. Mere arguements don't convince anyone. What denomination bashing? I haven't seen any denomination bashing. All I've seen is people standing up for the truth. Sometimes that entails pointing out error. No one has bashed the truths that any denomination teaches.
cmotherofpirl Posted September 24, 2003 Posted September 24, 2003 People, I think we need a prayer break: Lord we do our best to defend your Truth and the Church you gave us. Keep are tempers and fingers calm as we do this. Keep reminding us that we open the door, and its Your grace that will lead them home. May the Lord bless us, keep us and His face shine upon us, and give us PEACE! Glory be to the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit. AMEN.
PedroX Posted September 24, 2003 Posted September 24, 2003 Thank you Azriel and Cmom. Your charity and prayers strengthen us all. peace...
Azriel Posted September 24, 2003 Author Posted September 24, 2003 Let us make one point, that we meet each other with a smile, when it is difficult to smile. Smile at each other, make time for each other in your family. Mother Teresa, in her Nobel lecture
PedroX Posted September 24, 2003 Posted September 24, 2003 I know that this is off topic, but only a few short weeks until Mother Theresa of Calcutta is Blessed Mother Theresa of Calcutta!! I'm so excited. Working in her homes was the coolest experience. thanks for quoting her Az. peace...
dUSt Posted September 24, 2003 Posted September 24, 2003 I'm going to start suspending people. It's fun and effective.
dUSt Posted September 24, 2003 Posted September 24, 2003 Okay, skuba steve is gone for 7 days. Who's next?
cmotherofpirl Posted September 24, 2003 Posted September 24, 2003 I know that this is off topic, but only a few short weeks until Mother Theresa of Calcutta is Blessed Mother Theresa of Calcutta!! I'm so excited. Working in her homes was the coolest experience. thanks for quoting her Az. peace... Her beatification will be broadcast on EWTN. Hurrah
Guest Legion Posted September 24, 2003 Posted September 24, 2003 We must all act in truth and love. sometimes (being human) we miss what needs to be said and say, sometimes, what shouldn't. Just remember the Fathers of the Church said some derogatory remarks about each other as well. We need to realize that some people are trying to lead us into bashing each other, to get into arguments that serve no other purpose than to make us look bad. We need to realize this and try and stop the discussion when this happens.
littleflower+JMJ Posted September 24, 2003 Posted September 24, 2003 Is it just me, or is anyone else saddened by the turn of events in this section of our board? Has it really come down to this? Is is so very hard to be civilized and respectful to each other? We are all God's children, and like any phamily we are going to argue and disagree, and flame each other. But seriously folks, its getting out of hand. I think I'm going to bow out of reading the Debate table for awhile, it just makes me sad. i hear ya sister!! im afraid what to read sometimes not knowing what will be said. prayer always help. +JMJ
littleflower+JMJ Posted September 24, 2003 Posted September 24, 2003 I know that this is off topic, but only a few short weeks until Mother Theresa of Calcutta is Blessed Mother Theresa of Calcutta!! I'm so excited. Working in her homes was the coolest experience. thanks for quoting her Az. peace... go mother teresa!! whoo hoo!! :D
nippy316 Posted September 24, 2003 Posted September 24, 2003 Okay, skuba steve is gone for 7 days. Who's next? Seriously??
TempleofVesarius Posted September 24, 2003 Posted September 24, 2003 eekkks dust, I love your board and I think you are right We, as Catholics need to understand that what they are saying, isnt the truth, and all the insults or bashes aren't going to change that. Now I admit I can be kind of a smartarse every now and then (ok quite often), but I think dust is right about calming things down just a bit. We can all act like adults (I hate that phrase because adults argue more than kids do) and be at least smuggly civil. Like my mom always said, "Jesus said the gates of Hell would not prevail against His church, He never said they wouldnt try."
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