gonzaga Posted September 22, 2004 Posted September 22, 2004 I think, out of respect, to all those involved in Ireland ( and to us!) you should think about changing your sig...
Iacobus Posted September 22, 2004 Posted September 22, 2004 *Clears throat* Micah, I concur. I don't love FoxNews, lol, I didn't even read the links. Even the "liberal" news scoruses I like don't talk good about the IRA or any of that. Poltical basis doesn't show as much in US coverage of the "troubles." Therefore, FoxNews is semi crediable on thier coverage of Northen Ireland. But to dispell any doubt, PBS reports on them [quote]Bombing operations were revived in April 1996, and on the 26th of that month the IRA planted one of the biggest bombs ever deployed in London: a 30 lb (13.6 kg) Semtex bomb placed underneath Hammersmith Bridge. Fortunately, the bomb failed to explode due to a faulty detonator. Had it gone off, there could have been significant damage and potential loss of life.[/quote] [quote]Then, in February 1996, came a major bomb attack at Canary Wharf in London signalling the end of the 17-month ceasefire and claiming the lives of two innocent people.[/quote] [quote]In a subsequent bomb incident in London, a device that prematurely exploded killed the young IRA man who was about to plant it.[/quote] From the DoS [quote]The U.S. Department of State announces today the redesignation of the Real IRA (RIRA and other aliases) as a foreign terrorist organization under United States law. That organization was first designated two years ago, and designations last for a two-year period.[/quote] Here is a PDF with a short fact sheet on them, [url="http://www.state.gov/documents/organization/31947.pdf"]http://www.state.gov/documents/organization/31947.pdf[/url] The IRA, both the CIRA and the RIRA, are terrorist orgs. They kill civilians, therefore are terrorists.
Noel's angel Posted September 22, 2004 Posted September 22, 2004 Being from Northern Ireland, i am well equipped to tell you Morph that the IRA are a paaramilitary organisation who, yes, fight for freedom and a United Ireland, but they are terrorists who kill innocent civilians for example the terrible tragedy in Omagh a few years ago. They bombed a main street where innocent peopple were out shopping for the day. So pleases change your signature because it is very offensive. If someone xame and killed your family or friends and I put a picture of them in my signature, im sure u would be angry too.
Iacobus Posted September 22, 2004 Posted September 22, 2004 [quote]dUSt says don't be abusin' the sig spot and eat your vegetables.[/quote] Thanks dUSt.
MorphRC Posted September 23, 2004 Author Posted September 23, 2004 [quote name='theculturewarrior' date='Sep 22 2004, 09:15 PM'] I tend to agree with you Morph, re: american journalism and it's shades of propaganda, however, I do understand that that is not an argument. I can barely stand to watch the news, although I don't think the BBC is much better. I can't stand it when conservatives put the USA on a pedestal and deny whatever evil has been done by american hands. I also can't stand it when liberals try to tear down the conservatives. Both are just as dishonest. [/quote] I saw a short review of a new film: OutFoxed, on the Fox News network, they way they treated a son of a 9/11 victim was disgusting, the host started telling the son, what HIS Father would want, even without knowing him. THey should be shut down.
MorphRC Posted September 23, 2004 Author Posted September 23, 2004 [quote name='gonzaga' date='Sep 22 2004, 10:13 PM'] I totally defend the right of the 1916 uprising against the british, the irish people were very oppressed, and james connolly etc fought very valiantly (sp?) to win. But, the IRA of recent years due to bombings is very very hard for me to defend, where people are killed innocently, I do not think it is right. Having most of my family come over from Ireland, and family still there, the closeness of 'the troubles' is all too real. [/quote] I still have family in Northern Ireland.
Thy Geekdom Come Posted September 23, 2004 Posted September 23, 2004 [quote name='MorphRC' date='Sep 23 2004, 01:18 AM'] I saw a short review of a new film: OutFoxed, on the Fox News network, they way they treated a son of a 9/11 victim was disgusting, the host started telling the son, what HIS Father would want, even without knowing him. THey should be shut down. [/quote] I watched that interview. You are terribly misrepresenting it. The man whose father died was acting angrily and irrational (understandably) and was blaming the attacks on the US, etc.
MorphRC Posted September 23, 2004 Author Posted September 23, 2004 [b]The Hypocrisy:[/b] I cant have this sig, NOT according to dUSt but to Ironmonk, which is hypocritical, coming from an American, that supports his government, that has terrorized nations for 4 decades! One of the worse being Nicargua. If they had a signature of their flag, a army GI, and a cross or some form of religious matte, it would be fine. However if someone supports an Irish republican movement by force, which actually stands up to the 4-5 pre-req's in the Catechism [i]2309[/i], and some innocent people are killed, even if that wasnt the target, its terrorism. YET. If an American bombs, or bullet kills an innocent person in Iraq, or Afghanistan, its called "COLLATERAL DAMAGE", in other words, an acceptable death for the end result. IE: A means to an end.
MorphRC Posted September 23, 2004 Author Posted September 23, 2004 [quote name='Raphael' date='Sep 23 2004, 03:52 PM'] I watched that interview. You are terribly misrepresenting it. The man whose father died was acting angrily and irrational (understandably) and was blaming the attacks on the US, etc. [/quote] It is the US' fault..lol Your own Government caused this, through its "CIA OPS" and foreign policy, that guy knew his stuff. I CANT BELIEVE UR DEFENDING THAT! How the heck can u do that??
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