Extraordinary Ministers of Holy Communion

[D0RK4JP2]

[quote name='voiciblanche' date='Oct 16 2004, 08:53 AM'] We have a good thirty or so Extraordinary Ministers of Holy Communion at my parish, and I'd say they're all very well taught and do their jobs correctly. I personally know many of them and they're very good people; good Catholics. They [i]do[/i] know what they're doing, some of us would just prefer they didn't do it as often, as in, when it doesn't seem needed. However, as Cmom has said, it's the decision of the Bishop, so I try to be less... ranty... then I used to be. [/quote]
I have to question the whole 'bishop decides what particularly large is' for 3 reasons:

1. [and foremost] I haven't seen any Church document on it (please provide if possible).
2. What if the Bishop is unfaithful to the Churches teaching on the matter and reduces (or even extenuates) the reality of what 'particularly large' really means.
3. How can the Bishop decide what is best for each parish priest when he isn't in charge of the parish at all, only the priest; (also) for it is up to the priest to use EM's, not the parish (or the Bishop).

voiciblanche, it sounds like your parish are doing an awesome job . praise the Lord for it ay!

I rant alot about it because i like seeing the priests in charge, not the 'liturgy council' or whateva . Your parish sounds good because it does the right thing, my parish is good because we don't have any because it's 1962 Latin Mass. What do you think the best approach is to 'cope' with this matter because it is so easy to get overwelled and lose perspective,?

JMJ.

[qfnol31]

I think voici's parish has too many.

[voiciblanche]

[quote name='D0RK4JP2' date='Oct 16 2004, 02:47 AM'] What do you think the best approach is to 'cope' with this matter because it is so easy to get overwelled and lose perspective,? [/quote]
Well, as far as coping with it, all you can really do there is get over it, to be honest. There are actions you could take, but "coping" doesn't seem to get us anywhere. This sounds mean, but it's just my observation in general, not aimed back at you.


[quote]I think voici's parish has too many. [/quote]

Voici, in most cases, agrees with you.

I just think it's strange that we have nearly thirty when we've got a priest and a deacon or two at every Mass - seems like enough, but, hey, we might be getting a new Bishop rather soon, so maybe he'll think differently than Bishop Delaney. -shruggs-

[cmotherofpirl]

[quote name='D0RK4JP2' date='Oct 16 2004, 04:47 AM'] I have to question the whole 'bishop decides what particularly large is' for 3 reasons:

1. [and foremost] I haven't seen any Church document on it (please provide if possible).
2. What if the Bishop is unfaithful to the Churches teaching on the matter and reduces (or even extenuates) the reality of what 'particularly large' really means.
3. How can the Bishop decide what is best for each parish priest when he isn't in charge of the parish at all, only the priest; (also) for it is up to the priest to use EM's, not the parish (or the Bishop).

voiciblanche, it sounds like your parish are doing an awesome job . praise the Lord for it ay!

I rant alot about it because i like seeing the priests in charge, not the 'liturgy council' or whateva . Your parish sounds good because it does the right thing, my parish is good because we don't have any because it's 1962 Latin Mass. What do you think the best approach is to 'cope' with this matter because it is so easy to get overwelled and lose perspective,?

JMJ. [/quote]
AS I said the Bishop is the chief liturgist of each particular diocese, so you will have to check your dioceses policies on EMOHC.

If the Bishop is unfaithful he answers to the Holy Father and to God.

The bishop is in charge of each parish as head of the diocese, he sets the particulars for the whole diocese and expects the priest to enforce them in each parish. A good bishop has a general idea of what each parish is like, and who would need exceptions.

[D0RK4JP2]

FROM THE INSTRUCTION "REDEMPTIONIS SACRAMENTUM" WRITTEN BY THE CONGREGATION FOR DIVINE WORSHIP AND THE DISCIPLINE OF THE SACRAMENTS WRITTEN UNDER THE MANDATE OF POPE JOHN PAUL II. (Prefect, Card Arinze)

"[151.] Only out of true necessity is there be recourse to the assistance of extraordinary ministers in the celebration of the Liturgy. Such recourse is not intended for the sake of fuller participation of the laity but rather, but its very nature, is supplementary and provisional. Furthermore, when recourse is had out of necessity to the functions of extradordinary ministers, special urgent prayers of intercession shuld be multiplied that the Lord may soon send a priest for the service of the community and raise up an abundance of vocations to sacred Orders."

cmotherofpirl, i think the reason we keep on disagreeing on the EM's is because we are talking about slightly different things.

in [155.] of "Redemptionis Sacramentum" it says, "If...necessity prompt it, another lay member of Christ's faithful may also be delegated by the diocesan Bishop, in accordance with the norm of the law." norm of the law = can. 230, §3.

So where we have the miscommunicatio. I believe we would both agree that, yes the Bishop delegates - picked for the job - but the priest decides to use them when necessary.

JMJ.

[Craftygrl06]

Diocese of Richmond says "Eucharistic Ministers." I cringe when I see it in print.