foundsheep Posted October 1, 2003 Posted October 1, 2003 A prot. friend asked me today if I was going to allow my boys to dress up and Trick or treat this year. I said yes. He then went into stuff about devil worshippers and stuff like that. I told him that maybe it started that way but I viewed it as innocent childhood fun. I mean my kids dont know about that stuff. They know about jesus though. To them halloween is just what it is , get dressed up and beg for candy. He said his church does something else that night like a festival. Am I wrong for letting my kids do what I did as a child. I think it would mean something diffrent if we really took that carp(devil stuff) that serious.
Jake Huether Posted October 1, 2003 Posted October 1, 2003 A prot. friend asked me today if I was going to allow my boys to dress up and Trick or treat this year. I said yes. He then went into stuff about devil worshippers and stuff like that. I told him that maybe it started that way but I viewed it as innocent childhood fun. I mean my kids dont know about that stuff. They know about jesus though. To them halloween is just what it is , get dressed up and beg for candy. He said his church does something else that night like a festival. Am I wrong for letting my kids do what I did as a child. I think it would mean something diffrent if we really took that carp(devil stuff) that serious. Sheesh, Tell this guy to get over it. It's just fun, and it isn't sinful. I hate private interpritation. Dancing's a sin. Drinking's a sin. Anything outside of being a hermit is a sin. Give me a break. Ask yourself if Mary would let Jesus "trick or treat". I'm sure she would! But she'd prolly xray the candy before he ate it! LOL!
marielapin Posted October 1, 2003 Posted October 1, 2003 I personally don't like Halloween. I like the candy, I like dressing up. But I really don't like seeing a bunch of kids dressing up like Freddy Krougar. I don't know, call me crazy. I don't think it is "evil", though. It just makes me a bit uncomfortable.
foundsheep Posted October 1, 2003 Author Posted October 1, 2003 I personally don't like Halloween. I like the candy, I like dressing up. But I really don't like seeing a bunch of kids dressing up like Freddy Krougar. I don't know, call me crazy. I don't think it is "evil", though. It just makes me a bit uncomfortable. How bout a power ranger and a oompa loompa? :lol:
Jake Huether Posted October 1, 2003 Posted October 1, 2003 I personally don't like Halloween. I like the candy, I like dressing up. But I really don't like seeing a bunch of kids dressing up like Freddy Krougar. I don't know, call me crazy. I don't think it is "evil", though. It just makes me a bit uncomfortable. You're right. Now that I think of it. It used to be different. Costume trends follow very closely to the "fashion" trends. Little girls dressed like (dare I say) prostitutes. Boys crossdressing. Et. I guess I was picturing myself. I dressed up like a gypsi (sp?) one time. I think that was the most "evil" costume I wore! LOL.
marielapin Posted October 1, 2003 Posted October 1, 2003 The most evil costume I ever wore was a pirate. Or a hippy. I think I got turned off from Halloween in college, when all the girls dressed up like prostitutes, playboy bunnies, or scantily clad kitty cats and devils and were proud of it, and the guys dressed up like giant male parts, or hacked up zombies.
marielapin Posted October 1, 2003 Posted October 1, 2003 How bout a power ranger and a oompa loompa? Now oompa loompas are cool!!! I don't think I've ever seen a kid dress up as an oompa looompa. That would rock. Oh and I think clowns are kinda scary too. Ever since I saw Killer Klowns from Outer Space! :lol:
cmotherofpirl Posted October 1, 2003 Posted October 1, 2003 Our Church used to sponser a haunted house in our old school building. We raised over $10,000 for charity.
foundsheep Posted October 1, 2003 Author Posted October 1, 2003 Oh and I think clowns are kinda scary too. Ever since I saw Killer Klowns from Outer Space! Gotta Love clowns with Teeth :lol:
foundsheep Posted October 1, 2003 Author Posted October 1, 2003 You're right. Now that I think of it. It used to be different. Costume trends follow very closely to the "fashion" trends. Little girls dressed like (dare I say) prostitutes. Boys crossdressing. Et. I guess I was picturing myself. I dressed up like a gypsi (sp?) one time. I think that was the most "evil" costume I wore! LOL. Dont forget the pimp outfits. Me and the wife did that one. I gotta say i like the jewelry and cane. but they said I couldnt wear it to mass...lol :lol:
Dave Posted October 1, 2003 Posted October 1, 2003 I had a friend who dressed as a condom for Halloween! But you know what the best Halloween costume would be? If I had a girlfriend, I'd have us go to a Halloween party wearing formal attire -- a tux and an evening gown. BUT . . . I'd have her wear the tux, and I'd wear the evening gown! I'd also wear a wig and makeup, and she'd wear her hair done up so it looks shorter. Or perhaps she could wear a top hat! And of course, I'd have fake boobs! :lol:
vianney Posted October 1, 2003 Posted October 1, 2003 ummmmmmmm i dont know if i should laugh or run to the bathroom to puke
Paladin D Posted October 1, 2003 Posted October 1, 2003 What's the history of the Halloween? What does the Church have to say about the holiday?
foundsheep Posted October 1, 2003 Author Posted October 1, 2003 http://wilstar.com/holidays/hallown.htm try this for the history.
cmotherofpirl Posted October 1, 2003 Posted October 1, 2003 Halloween traces its origins to ancient pagan customs, although the name itself is derived from All Hallow’s Eve, an old English term signifying that the night is the vigil of the Feast of All Saints. Haloween originated chiefly among the Druids who were dominant in the lands of the ancient Celts, in particular in pre-Christian Gaul and Britain. The Britons paid tribute to the sun god by lighting bonfires in thanks for the light that made possible their harvests and also to mark the start of the winter. More significant was their homage to the Lord of Death who supposedly gathered together the souls of the dead from throughout the year on his night, called Samhain. Additionally, the night was believed to be a time when demons and foul spirits roamed the world to celebrate the return of the cold and dark. Poor mortals were tormented by the evil spirits and tried to buy their freedom by offering food and assorted treats. Samhain was thus marked by terrible noises, tricks, and pranks. Most of the common images of Halloween – the jack-o’-lantern, masked figures, bonfires, and the famous cry “trick-or-treat” all originated from these customs. The jack-o’-lantern probably began in Central Europe as a symbol of the cemetery caretakers and the lamps they carried. The Romans also had a festival that was celebrated around this time of year in honor of the goddess Pomona, patroness of orchards and gardens. Customarily, the event was celebrated by giving away fruit, especially apples. Halloween became a fixture in the United States in the 19th century, introduced by the waves of immigrants, most notably the Irish. It ceased its superstitious attributions in favor of a night of fun for children. A highly recommended variation on the holiday was adopted by many parishes during the middle part of the 20th century. Private, school, or parish Halloween parties were (and still are) organized in which children dressed as their favorite patron saints. Instead of trick-or-treat, children ask for “soul cakes” or “saint cakes,” and there was an emphasis on prayers and remembering the next day. The close proximity between Halloween and All Saints Day is actually a coincidence. As noted in a previous answer, All Saints Day is the feast that celebrates all of the Christian Saints. The earliest reference to it occurs in the writings of St. Ephrem of Syrus (d. 373), and St. John Chrysostom (d. 407) attached it to a specific day – the first Sunday after Pentecost. The assigning of a day in the Western Church was made at Rome in the 6th century, but it was not firmly established until Pope Boniface IV consecrated the ancient Pantheon in Rome to Christian use on May 13, 609 (or possibly 610). May 13 was the date for the feast until Pope Gregory III dedicated a chapel in the basilica of old St. Peter’s to “All the Saints.” Henceforth, the feast day was celebrated on Nov. 1, receiving universal appointment by Pope Gregory IV sometime before 844. The chief reason for the change was not to counteract Halloween (as is often claimed) but for the very practical need of pilgrims. The day was a popular among Christian faithful, and many pilgrims journeyed to Rome for the celebration. As the autumn harvest had just been held, there was more food available in the Eternal City at the start of November, and so it was easier to manage and feed the visitors than in May.
Ellenita Posted October 1, 2003 Posted October 1, 2003 Halloween originated chiefly among the Druids who were dominant in the lands of the ancient Celts, in particular in pre-Christian Gaul and Britain. Interestingly though it's not celebrated in the UK like it is in the US today. It is becoming more popular, but I don't remember ever taking part in 'Trick or treating' or Halloween parties when I was young.
Lil Red Posted October 1, 2003 Posted October 1, 2003 Gotta Love clowns with Teeth Wrong, Wrong, Wrong!!!! I HATE CLOWNS!!! Actually, there's a picture of me about 3 years old at a parade and a clown is bending down towards me and I'm looking at him with a look of terrifiedness (sp?). That's how young my hatred goes. THEY ARE WRONG! <_<
Aloysius Posted October 1, 2003 Posted October 1, 2003 me & my friends are gonna go as saints! that'll be a better expression of "All Saints Eve" :lol:
foundsheep Posted October 2, 2003 Author Posted October 2, 2003 me & my friends are gonna go as saints! that'll be a better expression of "All Saints Eve" Dibs on St.Peter. Now where did I Leave that Giant Key?
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