INDECISION 2004

[Homestarlover85]

[quote name='Raphael' date='Oct 16 2004, 05:13 PM'] I don't like your avatar.  I could just as easily say Democrats for Lockheart or Greens for Slytherin.

Besides, we all know that Republicans are for Dumbledore.  [/quote]
LOL..sorry about that

Edited October 17, 2004 by Homestarlover85

[crusader1234]

[quote]I'm voting for Bush. Not only because Kerry has publicly shown that he is against the church and her teachings through his words and actions, but because of how the President pulled this country together in our modern day's history's darkest hour.[/quote]

Gosh, how quick we jump to discounting the Holocaust. September 11th was a horrible event, but it is dwarfed by the Holocaust.

It isn't as grave a moral evil to vote for Bush as to vote for Kerry, but its a moral evil in my opinion in its own right.

[Thy Geekdom Come]

[quote name='crusader1234' date='Oct 17 2004, 12:42 AM']
Gosh, how quick we jump to discounting the Holocaust.  September 11th was a horrible event, but it is dwarfed by the Holocaust.

It isn't as grave a moral evil to vote for Bush as to vote for Kerry, but its a moral evil in my opinion in its own right. [/quote]
It is a moral evil to vote for the more supporting of the five non-negotiables (if faced with that particular circumstance). That is doctrine.

I think the phrase "modern day" meant in the last 20 years or so...

Furthermore, Bush will do more to stop the American Holocaust (thanks for bringing the word into the debate), which kills over 4,000 children per day. He will also stand stronger against gay marriage and euthanasia.

[MC Just]

I'm voting for bush!!!

Edited October 17, 2004 by MC Just

[crusader1234]

Raphael, I didn't say anything about abortion. Why is that everyones only draw point? "September 11th is the darkest hour in modern history" "Actually its the Holocaust" "Bush stops abortions!"

People, pay attention here, I'm not going to be having debates here on abortion. Abortion is wrong, and you can't vote for a 'culture of death' candidate. Bush isn't totally pro-life, and Kerry's actions are pro choice even if his mind is not (he states that he is against abortion and it isn't my place or any of yours to make judgment on that... we can judge him on his actions -which are decidedly anti-life - but not his thoughts).

Notice how I never said voting for Kerry wasnt morally evil? I was also just saying that it is my opinion that Bush isn't the pro-life angel you guys make him out to be. Thats whats wrong with this forum, people tag Bush with this pro life label, and then all of a sudden that pro life label applies to his economic policy, his foreign policy... gimme a break here.

When I vote, not in this election because I'm too young and Canadian, I will vote based on my own examination of the candidates' stance on the five non-negotiables. I will also vote based on my own examination of the candidates' stance on issues like the economy, healthcare, etc.

Saying Kerry is evil and you must vote for Bush is wrong, there are other candidates. I beg all of you to stop attaching Religious issues like abortion, to nonrelated issues like Economy. Just because Bush is against abortion, doesn't make his economic policy right.

I'm not saying that Bush is wrong on everything other than abortion or that Kerry is right, I'm just saying that when people bring up something that doesn't involve abortion that goes against what you personally believe, don't attach abortion to it.

[Theoketos]

I am still voting Jesus!

[Theoketos]

I am still voting Jesus!

[flip]

I'm voting for someone who is for Church teaching... which is NOT bush and Not kerry.... I'm voting for that other guy

[StColette]

[quote name='Theoketos' date='Oct 17 2004, 12:56 PM'] I am still voting Jesus! [/quote]
James

lol that's all the comment I'm putting in this thread

[aragorn]

[quote name='theculturewarrior' date='Oct 16 2004, 03:21 PM'] Gandalf would just hand the presidency over to Aragorn anyway. [/quote]
i like the way you think.

[XIX]

I know Catholic Democrats who are voting for Bush.

If I wasn't in a swing state, I'm sure I'd vote Peroutka.

[Duc_In_Altum]

What greater issue is there than the killing of millions?!! There is [b][i][u]no bigger issue than genocide[/u][/i][/b] in this country! Go Bush!!


-joe hahn

[Mrs. Bro. Adam]

[quote name='crusader1234' date='Oct 17 2004, 01:42 AM']
Gosh, how quick we jump to discounting the Holocaust. September 11th was a horrible event, but it is dwarfed by the Holocaust.

It isn't as grave a moral evil to vote for Bush as to vote for Kerry, but its a moral evil in my opinion in its own right. [/quote]
I thought I had included 'this country's', but it appears I didn't.


The biggest issue in America is the war, why? Because of the lives which have been lost. If more people would realzie how many more lives are being destroyed via abortion, the issue would not be the war anymore, it'd be abortion.


America has been very fortunate in their past. The biggest tragedies that this country has faced has been Pearl Harbor and what we refer to as 9/11.

We're supposed to look at all issues. The fact is, Kerry has admitted that he would've taken the same action as Bush did after we were attacked on 9/11. It was only until years later did Kerry say that he would've done something different. Hindsight is not foresight. Everyone was given the same intelligence, and when looking it over, the Senate came to a decision to go to war.

Kerry wants to tax the rich. If he taxes the rich, the middleclass will be eliminated, because it is they that will be affected, not the rich. The rich will cut jobs, close their businesses, move over seas and retire. Kerry is not economically smart, Bush has given clear plans on what he wants to do, Kerry hasn't. If Kerry is elected President, it is going to be a blind following. If he can't reveal his plans now, when will he? After he's done it?

America is a democracy. Put Kerry in office and lose the comfort that we feel today. We won't know what he's got planned or what he wants to do.


Listen to the debates. He continues to say, "I've got a plan" or "My plan will", but ever realize that he has not once said, "My plan is"?


Face it. The best individual to be in office for the next four years is Bush, not Kerry. We have to go with what we know, and what is revealed to us, not what we don't know and hasn't been revealed to us.