Eminem's Video For Anti-Bush Song 'Mosh' Hits The

[Guest]

MATTHEW 7-15
FALSE PROPHETS
"BEWARE OF FALSE PROPHETS, WHO COME TO YOU IN SHEEP'S CLOTHING, BUT UNDERNEATH ARE RAVENOUS WOLVES. BY THEIR FRUITS YOU WILL KNOW THEM. DO PEOPLE PICK GRAPES FROM THORNBUSHES, OR FIGS FROM THISTLES? JUST SO, EVERY GOOD TREE BEARS GOOD FRUIT, AND A ROTTEN TREE BEARS BAD FRUIT. A GOOD TREE CANNOT BEAR BAD FRUIT, NOR CAN A ROTTEN TREE BEAR GOOD FRUIT. EVERY TREE THAT DOES NOT BEAR GOOD FRUIT WILL BE CUT DOWN AND THROWN INTO THE FIRE. SO BY THEIR FRUITS YOU WILL KNOW THEM.

[crusader1234]

People, people, calm down. This isn't about Kerry and Bush and abortion. You guys always do this! This video is about Eminem's opinions and excercising his right to free speech. I agree with many of his critiques of Bush and I am glad he didn't depict abortion like it was a good thing. There is nothing against a person disagreeing with a public figure, and its wrong to call it 'satanic rage' becuase of personal politics.

I find it disturbing that a lot of Catholics take Bush's pro-life stance to mean they have to agree with all of his policies. The Pope himself condemned the war, so its OK to disagree with Bush on the war. The CCC condemns allowing famines to continue so as to improve your own financial situation, and Bush allows famines he has the resources to end to continue. Bush is NOT a holy man, and doesn't have the world's best interests at heart. Just because Bush saves babies doesn't mean that he's right in giving tax cuts to the rich and leaving behind the poor - that is not, in my opinion, the sign of a righteous man.

By the way, being enraged at Mr. Bin Laden and Mr. Hussein would be allowing yourself to get carried away by one of the 7 deadly sins.

[Guest]

how do you know bush isnt a holy man ?

and have you ever heard bush say "fuc* eminem" ??

by the holy spirit eminem did not say "fuc* george bush"

thats not useing your free speach
that is being a complete idiot

[Guest]

although i shouldnt have called it a demonic rage
im done argueing about hiphop
im jus gonna start doing my thing and let the chips fall where they fall
all i know though is hiphop that is presented today on tv is'a buncha junk for the most part.....and eminem gots those dark forces up in him
holla

[musturde]

You made a good attempt to stop the debate but ended up in making it last longer lol...

[quote]I find it disturbing that a lot of Catholics take Bush's pro-life stance to mean they have to agree with all of his policies.  The Pope himself condemned the war, so its OK to disagree with Bush on the war. [/quote]

Okay now, you're acting like it was Bush's whole idea to begin with. I'd be mad at Kerry for this action too especially after he tries rubbing it into Bush's face when he himself voted for it.

[quote]I find it disturbing that a lot of Catholics take Bush's pro-life stance to mean they have to agree with all of his policies.[/quote]

That's disturbing but most openminded Catholics wouldn't say they agree with Bush on everything but instead that they are both not the most fit for office.

[quote]Bush is NOT a holy man, and doesn't have the world's best interests at heart.[/quote]

First of all, you can't judge him on that. Second, America has always been like this. You wonder why the world hates us?

Eminem has a voice in this, it's just annoying that there's a lack of the full truth in it. Well, that's media for ya.

[Angelus]

Bush is an idiot/end of discussion/eminem got a right to voice his opinion/its not clear cut/not an easy decision/but can u say bush had made a easy way a living/ We got people on the streets/hungry in these streets/administration spreads deceit and and thier decisions cut deep/in these streets where I live/fatherless kids/we working hard everyday no 401k/while dyin over here/supporting world peace/ we aint got peace/ and the economy stinks/ We decayin/ and our zeal jus keeps us delayin/ from deplacin "King George" from his throne overweighin/and smotherin us slowly/ like a silent killer/ Bush has got a plan?/can u show me a clearer picture/i must be blind/ cause i thought we was sufferin/ Maybe kerry aint right but we gotta do sumptin! VOTE!!!

I am all about God and a strong leader who is about life but u gotta look a little farther than jus your religious feelings. Its about Economy (which smells of elderberries right now, one of the worst in history), Its about fixing our own country b4 we go and interfere in other peoples business(usually to manipulate them and take what we can of their resources eg. Iraq), and its about equal opportunity (tax cuts for the rich are not cool i know cause im on the lower end and we arent doin any better). I not sayin kerry will be any better, he might be no help at all but look at the past four years, the decisions made, the consequences and all those around u and tell me we are okay with his current administration and political situation. We gotta make some kinda change. And if u vote for Bush im not hatin do what u gotta do cause atleast u got an opinion and some concern for u and your life. You don't have to believe as i or anybody else as long as u stand for and believe in somthin. Peace and Love.
P.S. I think we all want the same thing, there are just differnt ways of gettin it. I wish it was easier but a side has to be chosen unfortunately.

[Angelus]

And as for eminem , I didnt know it was our place to judge a persons character or being with such scrutiny or harshness. I dont think he has any more dark forces in him than any of the rest of us. The difference between us and him is that he puts his out on front street and we keep ours in a small area reserved for self, some of us perpatratin like we are so holy when we are really just as dirty and incomplete as errebody else. Mayb u dont agree with ems way of expression but i dont know if this is a healthy way of expressin either. Mayb i shouldnt have called Bush an idiot, I dont know but this division between us as a people and nation because of this election is not anything brotherly or sisterly and to truelly make a change and do sumptin positive to lift up our people we gotta come together. Don't know if bashin em is the answer. Peace and Love.

[crusader1234]

While Eminem critiqued Bush, not once did he say he was bad because he was pro-life, so its not against your faith to agree with Eminem. I have to disagree with Angelus, because pro-life issues really do come first - but I don't think that should stop us from criticising every single aspect of the guy we don't like.

[Guest]

angelus
i was wrong the way i word'd the things i said.
and you are right, i sin everyday and am no better then anyone
but i do take a stand for wut i belive in to
i dont think it was cool for eminem to release a song where he said F the president
since that is our leader and there are people fighting at war for this country.
and m doesnt usually come with alota postive stuff...No im not judgeing him, i think i have made the mistake in the past of judgeing. so im not judgen m, i just hope n pray that m can use his talents to bring peace and spread the love of Jesus Christ

but i do appolgise the way i came off
and i got love for everybody
i pray that eminem does to

[Guest]

[QUOTE] Bush is an idiot/end of discussion/eminem got a right to voice his opinion/its not clear cut/not an easy decision/but can u say bush had made a easy way a living/ We got people on the streets/hungry in these streets/administration spreads deceit and and thier decisions cut deep/in these streets where I live/fatherless kids/we working hard everyday no 401k/while dyin over here/supporting world peace/ we aint got peace/ and the economy stinks/ We decayin/ and our zeal jus keeps us delayin/ from deplacin "King George" from his throne overweighin/and smotherin us slowly/ like a silent killer/ Bush has got a plan?/can u show me a clearer picture/i must be blind/ cause i thought we was sufferin/ Maybe kerry aint right but we gotta do sumptin! VOTE!!!



i was feel'n your rhyme bro
love in christ

[musturde]

[quote]Bush is an idiot/end of discussion/eminem got a right to voice his opinion/its not clear cut/not an easy decision/but can u say bush had made a easy way a living/ We got people on the streets/hungry in these streets/administration spreads deceit and and thier decisions cut deep/in these streets where I live/fatherless kids/we working hard everyday no 401k/while dyin over here/supporting world peace/ we aint got peace/ and the economy stinks/ We decayin/ and our zeal jus keeps us delayin/ from deplacin "King George" from his throne overweighin/and smotherin us slowly/ like a silent killer/ Bush has got a plan?/can u show me a clearer picture/i must be blind/ cause i thought we was sufferin/ Maybe kerry aint right but we gotta do sumptin! VOTE!!![/quote]

About the "Bush is being mean to the poor people" b/s, he's Republican, he believes in taxing the upper class so that the people who actually do make jobs, bring in more workers. If the higher class is taxed more, then why even aspire to try and work much harder? This is the arguement, you are argueing against a theory, not a president. Now, about the "Bush is making the war on Iraq to destroy us all for a little bit of oil he could have bought with the money he used on the war on Iraq anywayz" theory (as well thought out as it is), you're all looking at this with hindsight. If Kerry was president, we would have went to war anywayz. He voted for it. Now, I can understand people being mad at Bush for the war, I'm middle eastern. I know that doesn't serve as too much of an excuse but I've seen the views of the middle east and know a bit about it to interpret the situation in a clearer way. Eminem has a right to voice his opinions and so do you but I believe there is a clearer answer to those issues. Although I dissagree with what your rymes saying, I gotta admit it's pretty dope man.

[musturde]

[quote name='crusader1234' date='Nov 1 2004, 01:15 AM'] I don't think that should stop us from criticising every single aspect of the guy we don't like. [/quote]
I agree with you on that.

[Angelus]

I appreciate the love for the lyrics and i appreciate the respect of my opinion cause i respect your guys too. Like I said we all want the same thing which is good and positive changes for our country, we just have different views on how and who can help make that happen for us. That's my schpill and Delivery Boy ur one of my fav lyricists so thanks a lot and hey when are we gettin this music project off the ground, lol??? Anyways VOTE!!! Peace and Love yall. May the best man win and God bless him and guide him to the best possible outcomes for our country.

[yomichael]

[quote name='J.R.D' date='Oct 30 2004, 03:25 PM'] Both bush and kerry are idots we both know this ... But kerry is obvious choice its just as yall you catholics belive in morals and all this carp ... I belive in a better economy better country

Me= Economy before church [/quote]
I am going to let a little bit of Jesus in the temple come out of me.


J.R.D. you are a hypocrite. You quote Mother Teresa and the Pope on your banner but then you put yourself before the church and you put the so called economy before the most important thing on the ballet abortion. The other night on TV Father Frank Pravon Priest for Life talked about how when we vote we must choose people who protect life. If we vote for someone who supports abortion then we will for babies to die. WOW what strong words. Mother Teresa talked out against abortion and so does the Pope. If you are dumb enough to believe the dumb carp Kerry says go ahead and do so. But you can not vote for Kerry and call yourself a true Catholic or Christian. Marriage and innocent babies must be protected. As for the economy! If you remember right at the end of Bill Clinton’s term we where looking at a recession, that is when Bush took over his promise was to give tax breaks and ban partial birth abortion he did that. Then a terrible thing happened 9/11. He then swore to protect us and bring to justice the bad guys, he has been doing that. He said it would talk more the 4 years and people stood behind him but now it is easy being 3 years later to forget he said it would take that long. War takes time. Before you condone this war do one thing go to Iraq and ask the people what they think the ones who are not terrorist will tell you how they love it and what a dream they now have. Oh and don’t be one of those dumb liberals who say what about our troops. You know what ticks me off is these people who have never served who act like the troops are so miss treated and that they need not be fighting this war. Well I will tell you what I served and I know that more then half of the military that is serving is going for Bush. No one in their right mind would want to serve under the command of Kerry. By the way who ever gets elected will choose the Supreme Court at least 3 judges. Kerry said he will choose Judges who are pro-abortion and pro-homosexual. Bush said he will choose Judges who are pro-life and pro-marriage. The president will only be here 4 or so years the Judges will be here 40 years.

So if you will the death of little babies and Homosexual Marriages go ahead vote for the enemy. But don’t go around and saying you voted for him then say you are Catholic I am sick of people making Catholics look like unfaithful Christians.


You cant be Catholic and Pro-abortion too!-----American Life League

[megrc]

[quote name='rachael' date='Oct 28 2004, 08:18 PM'] i think all entertainers should stay out of politics [/quote]
I agree, Man I used to like Eminem but now, I gotta think about it.

[Angelus]

Entertainers are people jus like u with veiws and opinions and if its sposed to be such a free country they should be able to rap or sing about politics and get involved if they want to. I like that artists and music are involved in the political movements, races and so forth. Look at this years election and the raise of the percent of voters, younger (18-23), and youll see its quite significant and some of its due to the attention put on politics by their favorite artists and whoever. Bush won end of discussion, lol not happy about the results but lets jus stand united cause it doesnt get easier from here.