J.R.D Posted November 2, 2004 Posted November 2, 2004 A lot of adults were asking that question today for the Elections tomarrow So if you can tell me before we find out whos President Please
flip Posted November 2, 2004 Posted November 2, 2004 someone who submits to God...in every case, for every problem. aka not Kerry aka not Bush
J.R.D Posted November 2, 2004 Author Posted November 2, 2004 Sorry flip but that can nevr happen and Mamalove what do you mean by "personaly opposed"?
Socrates Posted November 2, 2004 Posted November 2, 2004 Someone who has the guts to stand up for what's right despite opposition, who can lead, who has moral character, and who follows the Constitution of the U.S. (guess that last one would eliminate both Bush and Kerry)
qfnol31 Posted November 2, 2004 Posted November 2, 2004 She means someone who isn't against something in private but for it in public.
qfnol31 Posted November 2, 2004 Posted November 2, 2004 [quote name='Socrates' date='Nov 1 2004, 10:02 PM'] ...guess that last one would eliminate both Bush and Kerry) [/quote] How Bush against the Constitution?
Socrates Posted November 2, 2004 Posted November 2, 2004 She means specifically the common politician line, "I'm personally opposed to abortion, but [I won't do anything to limit or oppose abortion]"
J.R.D Posted November 2, 2004 Author Posted November 2, 2004 How many presidents do you know were like that?
Socrates Posted November 2, 2004 Posted November 2, 2004 [quote name='qfnol31' date='Nov 1 2004, 11:03 PM'] How Bush against the Constitution? [/quote] Bush is too big-government - the power of gov't, and amountof gov't spending/jobs increased under Bush. began Iraq war without full backing of Congress. Actually, the U.S. Federal gov't has usurped too much power ever since Lincoln, and things have gotten especially bad after FDR - so this isn't to single Bush out - it's just that he's been part of the problem rather than the solution. Bush listens to the Neo-cons in the Rep. party too much. (I have a Constitutionalist philosophy) I still think he's a better man than Kerry and I'm voting for him tomorrow.
Socrates Posted November 2, 2004 Posted November 2, 2004 (edited) [quote name='J.R.D' date='Nov 1 2004, 11:08 PM'] How many presidents do you know were like that? [/quote] If you're referring to personally opposed, Bill Clinton, though I'm not even sure he said he was "personally opposed" - he said he wanted to make abortion in America "safe legal and rare" - classic Clinton double-speak! "personally opposed" I know is used a lot by "Catholic" politicians, like Kerry, Ted Kennedy, Cuomo, etc. Edited November 2, 2004 by Socrates
mamalove Posted November 2, 2004 Posted November 2, 2004 Its not just abortion. Its gay marriage, illicit stem cell research, cloning and things like that. They say they are personally opposed, but won't push their beliefs on anyone. Come on!! Your beliefs should define who you are.
qfnol31 Posted November 2, 2004 Posted November 2, 2004 [quote name='Socrates' date='Nov 1 2004, 10:12 PM'] ...began Iraq war without full backing of Congress... [/quote] Though I agree with most of what you said, he could actually go into Iraq without Congress backing him at first, which they eventually did. I voted for him last Friday at 5:00 pm CDT.
mamalove Posted November 2, 2004 Posted November 2, 2004 [quote name='Socrates' date='Nov 1 2004, 11:16 PM'] Bill Clinton, though I'm not even sure he said he was "personally opposed" - he said he wanted to make abortion in America "safe legal and rare" - classic Clinton double-speak! [/quote] "I'm opposed to abortion and to government funding of abortions." - Governor Bill Clinton, September 26, 1986 letter to Arkansas Right To Life That's just plain 'ol classic flip-flopping.
dUSt Posted November 2, 2004 Posted November 2, 2004 I'm personally opposed to voting for Bush, but Kerry's example gives me strength to support something I don't believe in, so I'm voting for Bush.
J.R.D Posted November 2, 2004 Author Posted November 2, 2004 Ok great stuff guys but "What makes a good president?"
Mateo el Feo Posted November 2, 2004 Posted November 2, 2004 Someone who speaks softly...but carries a big stick.
ironmonk Posted November 2, 2004 Posted November 2, 2004 [quote name='J.R.D' date='Nov 2 2004, 12:40 AM'] A lot of adults were asking that question today for the Elections tomarrow So if you can tell me before we find out whos President Please [/quote] What makes a good president. [list] [*]Honesty [*]Integrity [*]Someone who sticks to what they say they believe [*]Someone who really believes Christ is the Son of God [*]Someone who respects the Pope [*]Someone who will not change their "view" because the polls say to. [*]Someone who did not commit treason to the USA in Vietnam. [*]Someone who did not demand a Purple Heart for a bandaid. [*]Someone who does not try to use the Catholic people. [*]Someone who has been married once and not divorced [/list] God Bless, ironmonk
cmotherofpirl Posted November 2, 2004 Posted November 2, 2004 Someone who is not going to be tried for heresy by his own Church. Someone who has the guts to have an opinion before he gets the poll results.
mamalove Posted November 2, 2004 Posted November 2, 2004 [quote name='cmotherofpirl' date='Nov 2 2004, 11:31 AM'] Someone who is not going to be tried for heresy by his own Church. Someone who has the guts to have an opinion before he gets the poll results. [/quote] :thatsfunny:
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