the lumberjack Posted November 5, 2004 Posted November 5, 2004 whats the deal with that? do they not completely fall in line with the Catholic Church's teachings? or are seme more conservative or liberal, and thus labeled as such?
dUSt Posted November 5, 2004 Posted November 5, 2004 They've made posts which have made me believe that they are not loyal to the pope and/or current magisterium.
mulls Posted November 5, 2004 Posted November 5, 2004 dust, does anybody hold you accountable to the same standards? (i'm assuming yes)
Guest Aluigi Posted November 5, 2004 Posted November 5, 2004 it's his website, he owns it. it's like him deciding what he wants his website to say about Church Teaching.
Guest Aluigi Posted November 5, 2004 Posted November 5, 2004 Also I've long suspected this: [url="http://www.kensmen.com/catholic/evangelize.html"]http://www.kensmen.com/catholic/evangelize.html[/url] [quote] II. Message Boards We all know what message boards are, no explanation needed. But let's focus on popular, high-traffic ones that center on religion, especially ones set up for Catholics, or for Catholic-Protestant dialogue. I beg all to remain charitable above all, to lose the ego, and avoid name-calling and flame wars. If you're prone to that sort of thing (as I am), sometimes you just might want to post information, leave, and let others hash it all out. Use URLS to great traditional Catholic websites in your sig lines, and remember that for every person you might "talk" to one-on-one, there might be a hundred reading your posts. A few boards to try: My Life After for those who've seen "The Passion of the Christ" Planet Envoy Envoy Magazine's forum OneRock [b] PhatMass Phorum slick, nice-looking neo-con site for young Catholics[/b] Christian Forums: Catholic Christian Forums: Interdenominational Free Republic home of the "Freepers." A widely-read, mostly politically-oriented site (very neo-con), but with forums for religion. [/quote] has something to do with it just another case of the loud minority.
CatholicCrusader Posted November 5, 2004 Posted November 5, 2004 So, I guess I'm not the only one labeling it as "neo-con"... I suppose that not only Traditionalists but also most other Catholics use the same term (it seems that only the neo-cons don't like the term).
cmotherofpirl Posted November 5, 2004 Posted November 5, 2004 I prefer the term faithful, political labels have no place in the Church.
qfnol31 Posted November 5, 2004 Posted November 5, 2004 But just think about all those who do rep the Church.
Theoketos Posted November 5, 2004 Posted November 5, 2004 Instead of thinking about them I pray for them. Also I am loyal to Church and am more of a Cultural radical (beliving in Nehouse's Catholic Moment Theory), then a Neo Conservative, what ever that really means. Neo Conservative is such a misunderstood term and stance.
D0RK4JP2 Posted November 5, 2004 Posted November 5, 2004 And it's not for one to point out, who does not rep the Church anyway, that other's don't rep the Church - in a public forum. Respect their dignity aite. Everyone needs to be given the benefit of the doubt. We excuse as much as we can, we leave Judgement up to God. Man, i do not like being called 'conservative' or 'traditional' or 'right-winged' or 'orthodox'...IM JUST CATHOLIC. Christ found no 'right-winged Church' on Peter so i ain't a part of it. Political terms like that just create factionism which is a tool of the devil to divide and conquer. JMJ.
popestpiusx Posted November 6, 2004 Posted November 6, 2004 Phishy phishy phishy phishy phishy Don't trust anything I say cause I'm phishy phishy phishy phishy phishy
cmotherofpirl Posted November 6, 2004 Posted November 6, 2004 But we love phish...especially on Fridays
Guest Aluigi Posted November 6, 2004 Posted November 6, 2004 Phridays? lol no, CatholicCrusader, that is a site of self-proclaimed "trads" notice their call: "trads: take back the net!" They are "traditionalists" using the term neo-con just like you
J.R.D Posted November 6, 2004 Posted November 6, 2004 I dont rep the church ... when it comes to politics...
Brother Adam Posted November 6, 2004 Posted November 6, 2004 When ever we put our own will above the will of Christ we are in danger of becoming unloyal to his bride, the Church in the form of Protestantism, ultra-traditionalistism, or even lukewarmness, which I consider the gravest position to be in.
Budge Posted November 6, 2004 Posted November 6, 2004 Werent your saints those who DID dissent from leaders who went wrong like St. Catherine of Siena. I know trad Catholics and they say unthinking obedience was not the name of the game in earlier times. I have noticed that other Catholics here get a harder time then Protestants. (Im a Protestant ex-Catholic)
Socrates Posted November 6, 2004 Posted November 6, 2004 [quote]Man, i do not like being called 'conservative' or 'traditional' or 'right-winged' or 'orthodox'...IM JUST CATHOLIC. Christ found no 'right-winged Church' on Peter so i ain't a part of it. Political terms like that just create factionism which is a tool of the devil to divide and conquer.[/quote] "Orthodox"just means in adherence to the teachings of the Church. All Catholics should be orthodox Catholics and I am proud to call myself an orthodox Catholic. Terms like "conservative" or "right-wing" and "neo-con" have political connotations, implying that orthodox Catholic dogma is just another political opinion in the broad spectrum of Catholic opinion. This, of course, is false. One either stands with the Church's teaching or against it, no matter what one labels himself or his opponents.
Socrates Posted November 6, 2004 Posted November 6, 2004 [quote name='CatholicCrusader' date='Nov 5 2004, 05:44 PM'] So, I guess I'm not the only one labeling it as "neo-con"... I suppose that not only Traditionalists but also most other Catholics use the same term (it seems that only the neo-cons don't like the term). [/quote] I have been Catholic all my life, went to an orthodox Catholic College, in which some people are of a "Traditionalist" bent, but have never heard the term "neo-con" used in a religious context before being on this web-site. Nor has anyone I know heard it used this way. Loyal Catholics never call themselves "neo-cons," nor does the Church call anyone this. It seems to be a term coined (though borrowed from secular politics) and used solely by people of certain particular brand of "Traditionalism" (you use that term to refer to yourselves, right?) to slander those loyal to the Pope.
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