Guest Posted November 24, 2004 Posted November 24, 2004 ICTHUS wuts up brother so your saying that the catholic church i go to is not the church of God ? holla back peace
ICTHUS Posted November 24, 2004 Author Posted November 24, 2004 [quote name='Delivery Boy' date='Nov 23 2004, 08:25 PM'] ICTHUS wuts up brother so your saying that the catholic church i go to is not the church of God ? holla back peace [/quote] Insofar as it preaches the Gospel it is a member of Christ's bride, yes. However, I am becoming more and more convinced that the Church of Rome is not a church of Christ, but a synagogue of Satan, due to the damnable doctrines she preaches.
Buzzard Posted November 24, 2004 Posted November 24, 2004 (edited) I voted for this No - the one, holy, catholic, and apostolic Church consists of all those throughout the world that profess the true religion;and of their children: and is the kingdom of the Lord Jesus Christ, the house and family of God, out of which there is no ordinary possibility of salvation. as in like this No - the one, holy, catholic, and apostolic Church consists of all those throughout the world that profess [b][color=red]the true religion[/color][/b]; and of their children: and is the kingdom of the Lord Jesus Christ, the house and family of God, out of which there is no ordinary possibility of salvation. Edited November 24, 2004 by Buzzard
ICTHUS Posted November 24, 2004 Author Posted November 24, 2004 Who the heck else voted for the fourth option?
ICTHUS Posted November 24, 2004 Author Posted November 24, 2004 Oh, Hi Buzzard.. So, the question remains...what is the true religion?
Guest Posted November 24, 2004 Posted November 24, 2004 [quote name='ICTHUS' date='Nov 23 2004, 08:37 PM'] However, I am becoming more and more convinced that the Church of Rome is not a church of Christ, but a synagogue of Satan, due to the damnable doctrines she preaches. [/quote] such as ??
ICTHUS Posted November 24, 2004 Author Posted November 24, 2004 [quote name='Delivery Boy' date='Nov 23 2004, 08:39 PM'] such as ?? [/quote] Justification by works, Divinization of Mary...need I go on?
Guest Posted November 24, 2004 Posted November 24, 2004 (edited) [quote name='ICTHUS' date='Nov 23 2004, 08:53 PM'] Justification by works, Divinization of Mary...need I go on? [/quote] hey bro lighten up im just asking the question im catholic but i struggle all the time with it esspically when i hear some say how other church's arent church's of God i cant stand to hear that stuff i know pastors who arent of the catholic church, and i would never tell them or think they arent a church of God........ although I am catholic I was baptised in a catholic church when i was an infant and if God didnt want me here, he wouldnt have placed me here so i dont like to hear when someone says my church is not a church of God, cuz i know it is and that stuff about the pope being the antichrist, get real....thats real dangerous territory......remember, blasphemy agaisnt the holy spirit is unforgiveable Edited November 24, 2004 by Guest
Guest Aluigi Posted November 24, 2004 Posted November 24, 2004 other churches do not contain the fullness of truth. so long as they are inculpable for the sin of seperation, which is probably a lot of modern day protestants, they are imperfectly united to the Catholic Church. however, their doctrines they proclaim that contradict Catholic Teaching are wrong and dangerous, and we should do all in our power to correct them.
Chanman450 Posted November 24, 2004 Posted November 24, 2004 Just makin sure, by the Church of Rome you mean the Roman Catholic Church correct?
ironmonk Posted November 24, 2004 Posted November 24, 2004 [quote name='ICTHUS' date='Nov 23 2004, 10:53 PM'] Justification by works, Divinization of Mary...need I go on? [/quote] Clatter. Clatter. Clatter. That's all you have. You are wrong. Are you lying to yourself just to be able to post foolishness here? Here is the Catechism: [url="http://www.usccb.org/catechism/text/entiretoc1.htm"]http://www.usccb.org/catechism/text/entiretoc1.htm[/url] Prove what you claim with links to it... Your attacks are weak. If you cannot prove it with links to the parts of the Catechism about the protestant lie "divinization of Mary", then you have nothing but the lie. Salvation and Justification are not the same thing. There are ample verses that Christ commands works.... only a fool would say works were not important. For many will cry "Lord Lord" and He will say "'Depart from me, you accursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels."... If you can be denied because of works, you better bet your life that you can be justified because of works. Christianity is not a buffet. Stop treating it like one. Now... find what you claim about hte protestant lie about Mary in the Catechism or go away.... Are you a man who loves Christ or a barking dog along our way? If you cannot find where the Catholic Church teaches that Mary is divine, don't try to change the subject. You started this, don't run. Find in the Catechism where Mary is divine.... or concede that you were wrong about the Church teaching that Mary is divine. You seem to make a lot of accusations and have yet to prove any of them. Time to back up what you claim. God Bless.
Archangel Posted November 24, 2004 Posted November 24, 2004 [quote name='ICTHUS' date='Nov 23 2004, 04:53 PM']Justification by works, Divinization of Mary...need I go on?[/quote] Where does the Catholic Church teach the "Divinization of Mary"? We venerate her but do not equate her with God. Please explain where you got this erroneous statement.
Mateo el Feo Posted November 24, 2004 Posted November 24, 2004 [quote name='ICTHUS' date='Nov 23 2004, 09:53 PM'] Justification by works, Divinization of Mary...need I go on? [/quote] I have yet to hear any pope, bishop, priest, religious, or lay Catholic assert or even imply that Mary is divine. Could you elaborate? Regarding Justification by works... Quoting the Sixth Session of the Council of Trent: [quote]CANON I.-If any one saith, that man may be justified before God by his own works, whether done through the teaching of human nature, or that of the law, without the grace of God through Jesus Christ; let him be anathema.[/quote] Need I go on? LOL
Paladin D Posted November 24, 2004 Posted November 24, 2004 Listening to the same song gets very boring...
foundsheep Posted November 24, 2004 Posted November 24, 2004 [quote name='ironmonk' date='Nov 23 2004, 08:30 PM'] You seem to make a lot of accusations and have yet to prove any of them. Time to back up what you claim. God Bless. [/quote] :angry: AMEN!
IcePrincessKRS Posted November 24, 2004 Posted November 24, 2004 [quote name='Paladin D' date='Nov 24 2004, 12:02 AM'] Listening to the same song gets very boring... [/quote] :haha:
conservativecatholic Posted November 24, 2004 Posted November 24, 2004 Even secular historians would agree that the Roman Catholic Church was established by Christ. This is not to be debated. This is fact. Just like Luther founded Lutheranism, Christ founded Catholicism. If you disagree with the facts and history, you tell me when and at what time the Catholic Church was founded. Do not give me any Protestant bull or spin. State the facts and tell me the first pope of the Catholic Church. When did it all begin? You tell me. There has been no break in continuity between the Church founded by Christ and the Catholic Church today! None whatsoever.
EcceNovaFacioOmni Posted November 24, 2004 Posted November 24, 2004 [quote name='ICTHUS' date='Nov 23 2004, 09:53 PM'] Divinization of Mary... [/quote] Don't go down this road, ICTHUS. Your false representations of Catholic teaching will be your undoing here. You do not come off as a missionary of Christ.
Balthazor Posted November 24, 2004 Posted November 24, 2004 [quote name='ICTHUS' date='Nov 23 2004, 08:53 PM'] Justification by works, Divinization of Mary...need I go on? [/quote] For someone who has so many posts and spends his time at the debate table you sure don't know much about Catholicism.
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