the pope

[Paladin D]

I agree with Winchester, Crusader, and Conquerors.












Fear us.

[cmotherofpirl]

[quote name='ironmonk' date='Dec 2 2004, 04:55 PM'] Let me add something else to consider as a possibility....

Satan was chained for a thousand years... the Church grew rapidly the first 1000 years of Christianity.

There were heresies during the first thousand years, but none of them lasted. Shortly after 1000 years... 1054 AD, the Great Schism, denying authority of the Pope... then 1517 AD the great plague of denying the Church altogether.

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It wasn't a rash statement. Some here that don't think may think some of my statements are foolish, if they put a little thought into them, instead of assuming answers, they wouldn't look like the fool. You of all people should know that some generalities need to be said because if we went into every little detail we would have to write books on these subjects. Saying that there was no satanism in the 6th century is the same as saying there is no proof of it... Anything that we talk about in history is because of given proof. Speculating that there was because there is today is foolish. There was no satanism before Christ either. There were numerous pagan religions, but not Satanism. Satanism as we know it is from the last hundred years.

People might not have been educated back then, but they weren't that stupid to go against God and willfully worship a fallen angel. During the 6th century, Catholicism was very strong. There would be no openly satanic people because they would have been killed or imprisoned. If there was satanism, there will be nothing to prove it... saying it didn't exist is the same as nothing to prove it existed. [/quote]
You are wrong about the heresies they have never gone away, they simply get new and shinier packaging.

[Crusader_4]

ACtually the broken cross has some roots in the SLovak countries and in their early Christian art ( I even believe pre 600). Hence it is even more appropriate for JPII to use it as it is his own background.

[theculturewarrior]

Where in the bible does it say which symbols are Satanic?

[God Conquers]

burn

[phatcatholic]

lumberjack...............your respoonse?

[Balthazor]

[quote name='Crusader_4' date='Dec 5 2004, 01:55 AM'] ACtually the broken cross has some roots in the SLovak countries and in their early Christian art ( I even believe pre 600). Hence it is even more appropriate for JPII to use it as it is his own background. [/quote]
I though that was the double cross.....
Such as seen on the slovak flag

[Mary's Knight, La]

one last logical refutation

why do so few people speak against it, if it is obviously satanic, then why has no bishop complained, better yet, I watch tbn from time to time why haven't i seen anything on there, or the 700 club or any other christian media. If it is such an easy and clear to latch onto sign where are the true christians to rail against it to save souls.

[yiannii]

That's funny; last year and anti-Catholic acquaintance I know told me that the bent Crucifix was a secret Masonic symbol. There seems to be scandal every corner our Holy Father takes. Wouldn't you think that if the Holy Father was a satanist he would be doing more to mess up Christianity than carrying some symbol that means nothing to the majority of Catholics? Things like encouraging abortions or the use of condoms or even promoting homosexual marriages etc. In fact the Holy Father has been one of the only major figure heads to publicly speak out against such atrocities... hmmmm sounds like one majorly failed satanist to me. I wonder if satanic communities have people alerting them that one of their most powerful members is really a secret Christian.... I am laughing as I type.


On a more serious note: The whole explanation of why the cross is bent makes a lot of sense to me - in fact it means a lot to me too! At first I did not particularly like this crucifix but when I looked at it again with this new insight I did get this overwhelming feeling of the weight of sin - the very symbolism that the weight could somehow bend wood like that means so much to me.

Something good has come out of this post.

[homeschoolmom]

[quote name='theculturewarrior' date='Dec 5 2004, 08:11 AM'] Where in the bible does it say which symbols are Satanic? [/quote]

[Winchester]

I guess my post worked?

[Brother Adam]

lol...you scared him off for good.

[Winchester]

Naw, I bet he's busy. Ha ain't a grenadier, is he?

[Winchester]

Eleven days and no return salvo.

How disappointing.