Christmas to be called xmas?

[Phatmasser777]

[quote name='JesusSaves1000s' date='Dec 12 2004, 10:09 AM'] It's not just a word, it's a whole meaning. You get rid of the word you get rid of the meaning. Christmas has already been taken over by advertiser's and gift bearers, but now you want to totally get rid of Jesus Christ on his birthday? It's stupid. [/quote]
Oh it was taken over quite a while ago, around 1200AD, with pagan beliefs and objects incorporated into it, by the 17th century, marketing in Germany and other North European countries had started, by the end of the 19th century, there was a full sale economic market on Christmas gifts [another pagan origin], objects, toys etc. So its not new.

[Phatmasser777]

[quote name='MC Just' date='Dec 12 2004, 10:25 AM'] THE SECULARISTS WANT TO REMOVE EVERYTHING THAT WILL BRING US PEACE, THAT EVERYTHING IS CHRIST. THEY BUILD THEIR CULTURE ON QUICK SAND AND EXPECT IT TO STAND..ROFL@THE SECULARISTS. ONLY THE CHURCH IS BUILT ON ROCK EVERYTHING ELSE WILL FALL. [/quote]
Yeah the Church did a hell of alot to bring peace to Europe during the Dark/Middle Ages!

[Phatmasser777]

[quote name='JesusSaves1000s' date='Dec 12 2004, 10:27 AM'] Exactly. The secularists are doing more damage than they think. The secularists also believe they are religions, which they aren't. [/quote]
OMG talk about an OXYMORON!

Secularism means the seperation of Church and state, and funny-enough, its usually been enforced BY CHRISTIANS!

Secularism a religion?

[burnsspivey]

Learn your history!

xmas = christmas. Since X is chi (as others have pointed out) this is a common, old-school spelling that originated with the xtians. [url="http://www.bartleby.com/61/80/X0008000.html"]Dictionary[/url] says:

[quote]SYLLABICATION: X·mas
PRONUNCIATION:  krsms, ksms
NOUN: Christmas. 
ETYMOLOGY: From X, the Greek letter chi, first letter of Greek Khrstos, Christ. See Christ.
USAGE NOTE: Xmas has been used for hundreds of years in religious writing, where the X represents a Greek chi, the first letter of , “Christ.” In this use it is parallel to other forms like Xtian, “Christian.” But people unaware of the Greek origin of this X often mistakenly interpret Xmas as an informal shortening pronounced (ksms). Many therefore frown upon the term Xmas because it seems to them a commercial convenience that omits Christ from Christmas. 
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[Phatmasser777]

Just a thought:

People here are whining about Christmas being taken over but how did Christmas actually come around? Through the destruction of one belief system and replaced by another.

[JesusSaves1000s]

Your missing the whole point. The unbelievers want to get rid of the word CHRIST and replace it with X. It doesn't matter if it has the same meaning or not.

[Phatmasser777]

perhaps its karma

[qfnol31]

Is it wrong to have XPI or IHS?

[burnsspivey]

[quote name='JesusSaves1000s' date='Dec 13 2004, 09:14 PM'] Your missing the whole point. The unbelievers want to get rid of the word CHRIST and replace it with X. It doesn't matter if it has the same meaning or not. [/quote]
My missing the point?

You're missing the point -- x = christ. If christians have traditionally used it in that way, then you're still getting your religious meaning and the "non-believers" are being duped.

[Fool4Christ]

I hate it when they do that. Happy x-mas? Then why not celebrate X's birthday instead of Lincoln's Birthday?

[burnsspivey]

[quote name='Fool4Christ' date='Dec 16 2004, 12:22 AM'] I hate it when they do that. Happy x-mas? Then why not celebrate X's birthday instead of Lincoln's Birthday? [/quote]
Um...because x != Lincoln?

[musturde]

That's stupid that they wanna rename it, especially since it's the same thing. Well, everyone celebrates Christmas though. Maybe they should rename the nonspiritual one because they don't celebrate what we're celebrating.