Balthazor Posted December 13, 2004 Author Posted December 13, 2004 and Queequeg...you gotta love queequeg
DancesforLove Posted December 13, 2004 Posted December 13, 2004 (edited) Wasn't Lord of the Rings banned from schools? My mom and sister read Grapes of Wrath which should be banned just for sucking lol Edited December 13, 2004 by DancesforLove
immaculata Posted December 13, 2004 Posted December 13, 2004 [quote name='Balthazor' date='Dec 12 2004, 08:38 PM'] this was for a college level literature class I am assuming. the only book I really did not like was Moby Johnsonville brat..... [/quote] No, I'm talking about sophomore in high school. I still maintain that that's too young of an age for most students to grasp a lot of that material.. Yeah, and Grapes of Wrath.. I only read every other chapter.
Balthazor Posted December 13, 2004 Author Posted December 13, 2004 I took those books as a junior in high school... and then we also had the Sound and the Fury and Song of Soloman and Beloved, and Heart of Darkness I like all of those books. I know I read those books ina high school class but I don't remember which one
Don John of Austria Posted December 13, 2004 Posted December 13, 2004 [quote]Harry Potter was banned from some schools[/quote] yeah [quote]Wasn't Lord of the Rings banned from schools?[/quote] BOOOOOOO
rachael Posted December 13, 2004 Posted December 13, 2004 [quote name='Don John of Austria' date='Dec 12 2004, 09:02 PM'] yeah [/quote] HARRY!!!!! I :heart: Harry Potter
immaculata Posted December 13, 2004 Posted December 13, 2004 We have an entire semester course at school devoted to studying the religious themes in Lord of the Rings. :wub:
Balthazor Posted December 13, 2004 Author Posted December 13, 2004 [quote name='immaculata' date='Dec 12 2004, 08:59 PM'] No, I'm talking about sophomore in high school. I still maintain that that's too young of an age for most students to grasp a lot of that material.. Yeah, and Grapes of Wrath.. I only read every other chapter. [/quote] I think you are right though on the age thing, though, some of the books I mentioned are more for an AP English class in high school. (that was what I wear I read some of them)
Don John of Austria Posted December 13, 2004 Posted December 13, 2004 I understood Catcher in the rye at 16 I just didn't like it.
Balthazor Posted December 13, 2004 Author Posted December 13, 2004 [quote name='immaculata' date='Dec 12 2004, 09:04 PM'] We have an entire semester course at school devoted to studying the religious themes in Lord of the Rings. :wub: [/quote] very cool,
Balthazor Posted December 13, 2004 Author Posted December 13, 2004 [quote name='Don John of Austria' date='Dec 12 2004, 09:06 PM'] I understood Catcher in the rye at 16 I just didn't like it. [/quote] I remember when our class read Catch 22..... Most of them were completely lost on the book. They just didn't get it at all.... I can still remember the class valedictorian's confused face. She did not understand it at all. I think me and two other people (Mark and Josh) were the only ones that understood the book.
Balthazor Posted December 13, 2004 Author Posted December 13, 2004 Anyone here read Zorba the Greek, or The Greek Passion, or Last Temptation of Christ..... I know I shouldn't but I LOVE those books. Nikos Kazantzakis is so cool.
Don John of Austria Posted December 13, 2004 Posted December 13, 2004 never read Catch 22 so I have no opinion on it.
journeyman Posted December 13, 2004 Posted December 13, 2004 [quote name='heyyoimjohnny' date='Dec 12 2004, 07:29 PM'] Why are these books banned!? [/quote] Canon 1408 (1917 Code of Canon Law) authorized official censors (who reviewed books - and could issue recommendations for the Imprimatur of a local ordinary (Bishop) that opinion is where the words "Nihil Obstat" came from Canon 1410 reserved the right and duty to prohibit books for a good reason in the Supreme Pontiff and the local Ordinary. The ruling of a local could be appealed. Prohibition by the Holy See was considered forbidden everywhere. It was the duty of all he faithful - especially the clergy and those of distinguished learning - to report doubtful books to the Ordinary. (The Church gets beat over the head with Galileo as an example of a situation in which theology got in the way of science . . . and both lost) The Church also gets beat over the head for banning the Bible . . . now the text may have changed since originally written, but my copy says what was forbidden were editions of the original text or of ancient Catholic versions of the Sacred Scriptures published by any non-Catholics whatsoever, likewise translations made or published by non-Catholics . . . that sounds like it was partly theology and partly economics . . . given the radical difference in opinion rendered by the believers in sola scriptura . . . and the rumors of mangling of text (or translation) by reformation era church leaders (Luther comes to mind) . . . that sounds like it could be a prudent restriction Other grounds for banning books of any writers defending heresy or schism, or tending in any way to undermine the very foundations of religion books which avowedly attack religion or good morals books of any non-Catholics treating professedly of religion, unless it is certain that they contain nothing contrary to the Catholic faith books or pamphlets giving an account of new apparitions, revelations, visions, prophecies or miracles, or which introduce new devotions books which attack or ridicule Catholic dogma, defend errors condemned by the Holy See (that could make it hard for the Church to retract, if it was in fact in error) books which teach or approve of any kind of superstition, fortune telling, divination, magic, communications with spirits, etc (dungeons and dragons?) books which declare duels, suicide or divorce as licit, which treat of the masonic and other similar sects, and contend that these are not pernicious, but useful to the Church and civil society, books which discuss, describe or teach impure and obscene topics Another rumor I have not confirmed is that Aristotle was on the banned list when St. Thomas Aquinas "reconciled" Aristotle and Catholic philosophy - perhaps he had received special dispensation per former Canon 1418 The modern Code (1983) retained the right of the Church to censor books prior to publication . . . the prohibitions against keeping, reading, selling were mostly eliminated . . . Canons 822-832
IcePrincessKRS Posted December 13, 2004 Posted December 13, 2004 [quote name='Don John of Austria' date='Dec 12 2004, 09:39 PM'] I hated Catcher in the Rye-- That book should be banned-- I honestly have bought used copies of that book just to throw them away in an attempt to keep others from the deep abiding Lovecraftian horror that is that book. [/quote] :rotfl:
Theoketos Posted December 13, 2004 Posted December 13, 2004 [quote name='Don John of Austria' date='Dec 12 2004, 09:15 PM'] never read Catch 22 so I have no opinion on it. [/quote] thank you for sharing.
shelly_freak Posted December 13, 2004 Posted December 13, 2004 Reading banned books seems so scandolous. I read Harry Potter one time in class and got in trouble, silly overprotective catholic school.
ICTHUS Posted December 13, 2004 Posted December 13, 2004 [quote name='Balthazor' date='Dec 12 2004, 07:01 PM'] Have you guys ever read any "banned" books or rather books that used to be banned? Just curious. [/quote] Yeah - the Bible. I try to read it as much as possible.
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