dairygirl4u2c Posted December 31, 2004 Posted December 31, 2004 For all the times I haven't agreed with cmother or thought her answers were too simplistic, I just have to give props to that last post. Profound!
Phatmasser777 Posted December 31, 2004 Posted December 31, 2004 Alugui.. [quote]there's a couple of people on here that struggle with this sickness. i won't name names.[/quote] Brilliant...lol truly brilliant.
Monoxide Posted January 1, 2005 Author Posted January 1, 2005 Does everyone understand the differance between the two evils? One has their evil under control (called to chastity) They are role models for us all. The other pratices and indulges in his evil temptations. He is the essance of the Homosexual.
cmotherofpirl Posted January 1, 2005 Posted January 1, 2005 Anybody who has their tempations [drugs, alcohol, sex ,money, power] "under control" is a role modal for us all. Of course as soon as we feel that [u]we[/u] are controlling our impulses we set ourselves up for the great sin of pride. Anyone who is a sinner is practicing and indulging in temptation. He/she is a child of God who is sinning, which does not mean him or her becomes the sin. No human is the essence of sin.
Monoxide Posted January 2, 2005 Author Posted January 2, 2005 So homosexuality is no differant than, say crack cocaine? I like that analogy, however it is unfair to say that it is as physically rewarding as crack, because im almost certain that it isnt. Dont do crack though, its a ghetto drug
Chris Zewe Posted January 2, 2005 Posted January 2, 2005 Yeah...I just read the last two posts and briefly skimmed the first page (I would've read the first post, but a mod deleted it...) and here's my two cents... Homosexuality isn't a disease and it isn't evil. Nine times out of ten (at least), homosexuals are BORN gay, they don't choose to be. And no, homosexuality is nothing like crack, as crack is bad for you and is illegal by federal law.
Brother Adam Posted January 2, 2005 Posted January 2, 2005 Yes, this is the commonly accepted pagan/secularist view. We are born with the inclination to sin, and some born with the inclination to such depravity. True freedom however is found in overcoming such temptation, not in giving in.
Chris Zewe Posted January 2, 2005 Posted January 2, 2005 That's not telling me how it's evil, however. According to your beliefs, God made men and women so that they could mate together and not within their own gender, correct? Just because you're not using something for the purpose that your God allegedly made it for doesn't make it evil. Christian discrimination against homosexuals is simply due to how small of a minority homosexuals are.
Brother Adam Posted January 2, 2005 Posted January 2, 2005 Sure it is, as you just said, it is contrary to the will of God. That's called sin. Minority has nothing to do with it. Protestants hold a majority in most, if not all US states, and we still say they are wrong.
Chris Zewe Posted January 2, 2005 Posted January 2, 2005 Correct me if I'm wrong, but the Old Testament doesn't specifically forbid homosexuality.
Dave Posted January 2, 2005 Posted January 2, 2005 [quote name='Chris Zewe' date='Jan 2 2005, 05:09 PM'] Just because you're not using something for the purpose that your God allegedly made it for doesn't make it evil. Christian discrimination against homosexuals is simply due to how small of a minority homosexuals are. [/quote] Well of course it makes it evil -- at least the act of misuse is what is evil. Sex is a good thing, but misusing it through homosexual activity, premarital sex, adultery, etc. is evil. In the same way, medicine is a good thing, but it's evil to get addicted to it. And money is a good thing, but to spend frivolously and without regard to others' needs is evil. And Christians don't discriminate against homosexuals. Christians oppose sin, not people. And that's not to say that all homosexuals practice their sexual orientation. There are those who, convicted of the wrongness of homosexual activity, have taken it upon themselves to live celibate lives. That is VERY admirable, especially in a society like this, where personal pleasure and getting what we want when we want it are promoted constantly.
crusader1234 Posted January 2, 2005 Posted January 2, 2005 [quote name='Monoxide' date='Jan 2 2005, 02:37 PM'] Dont do crack though, its a ghetto drug [/quote] :rotfl:
Chris Zewe Posted January 2, 2005 Posted January 2, 2005 [quote name='Dave' date='Jan 2 2005, 04:23 PM'] Well of course it makes it evil -- at least the act of misuse is what is evil. Sex is a good thing, but misusing it through homosexual activity, premarital sex, adultery, etc. is evil. In the same way, medicine is a good thing, but it's evil to get addicted to it. And money is a good thing, but to spend frivolously and without regard to others' needs is evil. And Christians don't discriminate against homosexuals. Christians oppose sin, not people. And that's not to say that all homosexuals practice their sexual orientation. There are those who, convicted of the wrongness of homosexual activity, have taken it upon themselves to live celibate lives. That is VERY admirable, especially in a society like this, where personal pleasure and getting what we want when we want it are promoted constantly. [/quote] Evil is a perception, silly, not a black-and-white word that you can just toss around whenever you want to change someone's mind. Why is homosexual activity evil? Just because some dying old man didn't speak some words in a church while they stand in front of him?
Brother Adam Posted January 2, 2005 Posted January 2, 2005 [quote name='Chris Zewe' date='Jan 2 2005, 05:22 PM'] Correct me if I'm wrong, but the Old Testament doesn't specifically forbid homosexuality. [/quote] Sodomy.
crusader1234 Posted January 2, 2005 Posted January 2, 2005 Leviticus 18:22 Thou shalt not lie with mankind as with womankind: because it is an abomination. Thanks to Dust for the online documents section.
Chris Zewe Posted January 2, 2005 Posted January 2, 2005 [quote name='Brother Adam' date='Jan 2 2005, 04:26 PM'] Sodomy. [/quote] Homosexuality applies to females, too...and oral sex between a man and another man isn't sodomy either. [i]Leviticus 18:22 Thou shalt not lie with mankind as with womankind: because it is an abomination. [/i] Bleh.
Brother Adam Posted January 2, 2005 Posted January 2, 2005 yep. That man part just wasn't made to go there. Should tax payers have to pay for health care when homosexuals (or in time we live in now- heterosexuals) get aids?
Chris Zewe Posted January 2, 2005 Posted January 2, 2005 [quote name='Brother Adam' date='Jan 2 2005, 04:31 PM'] yep. That man part just wasn't made to go there. Should tax payers have to pay for health care when homosexuals (or in time we live in now- heterosexuals) get aids? [/quote] Should taxpayers have to pay for prisoners to live, just because convicted criminals aren't going to be killed due to Christian law?
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