Phatmasser777 Posted January 4, 2005 Share Posted January 4, 2005 [quote name='robbie' date='Jan 3 2005, 03:43 PM'] Hasn't it already been (very well by the way) argued that for many many scriptural reasons Peter [i]was[/i] the first pope? And not [i]just[/i] because of "upon this rock."? What evidence do you have to support that (I'm not saying you're wrong I'm just curious as to why you said this). How do you know he taught this? (again, I;m just curious). [/quote] A brilliant 2 part documentary "Peter & Paul & The Christian Revolution." Oh and check any encyclopedia or if you want it from the Church get the New St. Jeromes Biblical Commentary. Peter was the head of ONE community. Paul was the head of MANY. Infact it would be wise to say Paul would be the 'Pope' he had a lot more power and influence in the Christian community, and also proved one of Peters false beliefs (Pro-Torah Laws) wrong for a Christian. So he cant be Pope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phatcatholic Posted January 4, 2005 Share Posted January 4, 2005 phatmasser777...................so let me get this straight: you're catholic but you deny that Peter was the first pope? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HomeTeamFamily Posted January 4, 2005 Share Posted January 4, 2005 im just wondering why someone comes on a Catholic board and wants us to defend a doctrine that >90 percent of users agrees with lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benedict Posted January 4, 2005 Share Posted January 4, 2005 Phatmasser777 is a Catholic who apparently denies Peter as the first pope and has some issues with reason, science, faith, morals, ethics, etc. from the Abortion and Transubstantiation threads. I actually do see a point in what Dairy has posted. On the one hand, we must know the arguments against the papacy in order to defend it. On the other hand, we often point out that there is so much misunderstanding of Catholic doctrine, we might as well show that we understand the beliefs of others, even when those beliefs are threadbare, illogical, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cathqat Posted January 4, 2005 Share Posted January 4, 2005 [quote name='Benedict' date='Jan 4 2005, 03:38 PM'] Phatmasser777 is a Catholic [/quote] Has he said so? I mean, apart from listing "Katholik" as his religion in his profile? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benedict Posted January 5, 2005 Share Posted January 5, 2005 Looking back through his posts, no. Throughout the abortion thread there is an implication of his being a very unorthodox or weak Catholic. Katholik is how it is spelled in German (at least, [i]Der Katholik [/i]is) as well as Indonesian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phatmasser777 Posted January 5, 2005 Share Posted January 5, 2005 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benedict Posted January 6, 2005 Share Posted January 6, 2005 Either Phatmasser777 is an unorthodox Catholic or he is a flat-out liar. Care to clarify for us? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cathqat Posted January 6, 2005 Share Posted January 6, 2005 [quote name='Benedict' date='Jan 4 2005, 11:04 PM'] Katholik is how it is spelled in German (at least, [i]Der Katholik [/i]is) as well as Indonesian. [/quote] And has he given any other reason, as I asked? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benedict Posted January 6, 2005 Share Posted January 6, 2005 That is why I just asked him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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phatcatholic Posted January 6, 2005 Share Posted January 6, 2005 well, which is it bro? non-catholic or unorthodox catholic? i don't really know how to respond to you until i have this answer...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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