The Tsunami and God

[curtins]

All good comes from God- it may manifest itself through a human (ie a human is inspired by God to do good) but at the end of the good line is God. Now Im pretty sure all evil comes from the devil right? and we as human beings either choose the good (God and virtue) or the evil (devil and sin). Of course God is involved in it- God is pure goodness pure pure holiness- to say that he is not involved is pure ignorance.

[Phatmasser777]

[quote name='Aluigi' date='Jan 10 2005, 05:19 AM'] G. K. Chesterton would tear you apart! too bad he's not alive...

go read one of his books. i suggest The Everlasting Man [/quote]
Point?

[FutureSoror]

Look at the world around us; a leaf, a giraffe, a person, anything. Think about the intricate disign, and how it works. No one can reproduce that. If you went on a walk on the seashore and found an ipod, you would assume that someone left it there. Something like that doesn't assemble itself naturally. No matter how many times you throw bike parts in the air, they are never going to fall in the shape of a bike. It's the same with the natural world. Throwing bits of matter in the air will never make a leaf that makes its own food and drinks water from the ground. These things in the natural world obviously have a designer, and humans in particular are set apart from the rest of them.

I would deffinetly say that the beauty of creation is a good. God created a good world, and we chose to reject him by sinning. We are not promised happiness on earth, but told that this is not our home, and that the happiness is waiting in heaven.

[curtins]

I wish
I could find
an ipod
on the beach-
altogh it would be messed up with sand in it
id still sell it on ebay

[Phatmasser777]

I use to use that FutureS. Its a poor example, unless you show it scientifically, which no Christian has so far, the Muslims have, and brilliantly.

[curtins]

wait im lost- where did sciecne come in here??? about her saying that you cant just through random matter and expect it to come out as something?- dude shes right- its common sence- and whats this muslim thing your talking about???

[Phatmasser777]

[quote]BUSH WINS!!!!! WE ALL WIN!!!!! THE TROOPS WIN!!!!!! THE UNBORN WIN!!!!!!!! THE TERRORISTS LOOSE!!!!!!![/quote]

Hmm Do you watch ANYTHING BUT FOX?

[curtins]

yes as a matter of fact I do-

I watch food network, tnn, history channel, and I would watch ewtn if we got it.

but where does that come in???

if your trying to start a political debate with me here- Youd better be prepared for a thrashing