StColette Posted August 17, 2005 Posted August 17, 2005 [quote name='Cure of Ars' date='Aug 16 2005, 09:58 PM']Don’t take my not listing women as a sign that I was a male chauvinist pig. And if I was (I'm not saying that I was) it was 2 years ago and now that I have lived with my wife for 5 years she has been able to domesticate me somewhat. I even put the seat down when I can remember. I should have listed Rosalind Moss and Kimberly Hahn. [right][snapback]687296[/snapback][/right] [/quote] ROFL I wasn't just talking about the list. I just find it amazing how very few women apologists there really are.
Laudate_Dominum Posted August 17, 2005 Posted August 17, 2005 I know! And I thought women liked arguing. hehe j/k But even if you look at the debate table here it is mostly guys who post... interesting..
cmotherofpirl Posted August 17, 2005 Posted August 17, 2005 (edited) I wasn't thinking in terms of male -female. If I would pick a woman specifically it would be Mother Angelica. Most good Catholic woman theologians are out there raising the next generation of good catholic kids [such as Anna, or Ice Princess, Kilroy , Az and all the phatmass moms] They don't have time to write books. Edited August 17, 2005 by cmotherofpirl
Laudate_Dominum Posted August 17, 2005 Posted August 17, 2005 [quote name='cmotherofpirl' date='Aug 17 2005, 06:08 AM']I wasn't thinking in terms of male -female. If I would pick a woman specifically it would be Mother Angelica. Most good Catholic woman theologians are out there raising the next generation of good catholic kids [such as Anna, or Ice Princess, Kilroy , Az and all the phatmass moms] They don't have time to write books. [right][snapback]687483[/snapback][/right] [/quote] This is a good point. There are a great many female Theology majors at FUS, but I suspect many of them go on to become mothers. But I was thinking more that maybe women don't like apologetics (in general), because there were hardly any female Philosophy majors at my school. I can think of a very small handful. Almost as small as the handful of male nursing majors, and a tad under the group of male education majors.. Maybe men are more argumentative by nature?
homeschoolmom Posted August 17, 2005 Posted August 17, 2005 [quote name='cmotherofpirl' date='Aug 17 2005, 06:08 AM']I wasn't thinking in terms of male -female. If I would pick a woman specifically it would be Mother Angelica. Most good Catholic woman theologians are out there raising the next generation of good catholic kids [such as Anna, or Ice Princess, Kilroy , Az and all the phatmass moms] They don't have time to write books. [right][snapback]687483[/snapback][/right] [/quote] I barely have time to [i]read[/i] books...
Jaime Posted August 17, 2005 Posted August 17, 2005 T. S. Elliot Just don't read "The Wasteland" first. Four Quartets is a good jumping off point
azaelia Posted August 17, 2005 Posted August 17, 2005 I chose Peter Kreeft, because he's the only one I've read I'd definitely have to side with anyone who said C.S. Lewis, too.
Laudate_Dominum Posted August 17, 2005 Posted August 17, 2005 Dang, Scott Hahn is making a killing on this poll.. Also, I think James Akin is arguably the best apologist on that list and no one has voted for him.
Era Might Posted August 17, 2005 Posted August 17, 2005 (edited) I'll vote for Jimmy Akin, among those listed in the poll. He always breaks down an argument point by point and demolishes it. Plus he's super smart. The guy speaks Aramaic, for gosh sakes. Edited August 17, 2005 by Era Might
cmotherofpirl Posted August 17, 2005 Posted August 17, 2005 [quote name='Laudate_Dominum' date='Aug 17 2005, 08:50 AM'] Maybe men are more argumentative by nature? [right][snapback]687528[/snapback][/right] [/quote] Hardly. Men just have more time to waste talking , while we are busy keeping the world populated and running. :
popestpiusx Posted August 17, 2005 Posted August 17, 2005 [quote name='p0lar_bear' date='Aug 16 2005, 12:29 PM']Frank Sheed, quite possibly the single most influential apologist of the 20th Century. And most of the people on that list would tell you the same. [right][snapback]686642[/snapback][/right] [/quote] If I had to choose I think I would go with polar's choice. Or perhaps Bishop Sheen.
p0lar_bear Posted August 17, 2005 Posted August 17, 2005 [quote name='popestpiusx' date='Aug 17 2005, 05:35 PM']If I had to choose I think I would go with polar's choice. Or perhaps Bishop Sheen. [right][snapback]688004[/snapback][/right] [/quote] popestpiusx just agreed with me ....weird.... :
StColette Posted August 17, 2005 Posted August 17, 2005 [quote name='hot stuff' date='Aug 17 2005, 07:57 AM']T. S. Elliot Just don't read "The Wasteland" first. Four Quartets is a good jumping off point [right][snapback]687532[/snapback][/right] [/quote] I had to read that last semester
dspen2005 Posted August 17, 2005 Posted August 17, 2005 None... I personally find the older apologists to have a little more bite to them -- Chesterton, Lewis (though he wasn't Catholic), Belloc.... Generally, though, I would have to say Lewis was most influential in his common sense approach to Christian thinking.
heavenseeker Posted August 17, 2005 Posted August 17, 2005 when I heard Flip (J the Primate) talk to us at music fest list year about how he was preparing to join the church and why he wanted to was meaningful to me. I liked that alot. I'm not sure if he counts as an apologist but if he does then he's my favorit.
Thy Geekdom Come Posted August 18, 2005 Posted August 18, 2005 While I have respect for many Catholic apologists, I think that Dr. Scott Hahn is the most influential Catholic apologist. Yes, I know that most people would say that on name recognition, but let's look at what he's done. Here is a convert to the faith knew his Protestant theology very well, but couldn't help even in his Presbyterian seminary to write papers supporting the papacy. Numerous Protestant pastors and educated theologians have followed him. Additionally, he's brought many, many people to the faith by making covenantal theology available to the masses. He doesn't just list verse after verse like many apologists, but really goes to the heart of the matter. He may not go as deep as others, but he goes deep enough and speaks plainly enough to get the Gospel out in the hands of the faithful in a dynamic and understandable way. A close second would have been Loraine Boettner, even though he wasn't Catholic, just because he shows how very stupid the alternative is. : jk
Era Might Posted August 18, 2005 Posted August 18, 2005 Something I just thought of, I think there are some notable differences between some in the group. Scott Hahn and Peter Kreeft, for example, I wouldn't call apologists in the strict sense. Hahn, to me anyway, is more of a popular theologian, while Kreeft is more of a philosopher. Jimmy Akin and Dave Armstrong, on the other hand, are cutthroat apologists. That's where they make their bones, so to speak.
cmotherofpirl Posted August 18, 2005 Posted August 18, 2005 I certainly would have mentioned Sheed or Sheen as they are some leading apologists of the 20th century, but C S Lewis always pops in my mind first. Has anyone read Father William Most? His papers are on EWTN.com
popestpiusx Posted August 18, 2005 Posted August 18, 2005 [quote name='p0lar_bear' date='Aug 17 2005, 04:48 PM']popestpiusx just agreed with me ....weird.... : [right][snapback]688023[/snapback][/right] [/quote] The horror.....
popestpiusx Posted August 18, 2005 Posted August 18, 2005 [quote name='cmotherofpirl' date='Aug 17 2005, 09:56 PM']Has anyone read Father William Most? His papers are on EWTN.com [right][snapback]688368[/snapback][/right] [/quote] Fr. Most was pretty good. We read some of his stuff in college.
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