MC Just Posted February 18, 2005 Posted February 18, 2005 [url="http://righteousb.blogspot.com/"]http://righteousb.blogspot.com/[/url] Jesus was a Hebrew. He wasnt white, he wasnt black or asian.
Matt Black Posted February 18, 2005 Posted February 18, 2005 It's obvious He was black: He liked Gospel, called everyone "Brother" and got stitched up for a crime He didn't commit! On second thoughts, I'll get me coat... Yours in Christ Matt
aloha918 Posted February 18, 2005 Posted February 18, 2005 i think that he did have a dark complection..........he would have had to with the heat and all...........
toledo_jesus Posted February 18, 2005 Posted February 18, 2005 what the pope was saying is that in His Body (The Church) which includes Africans, Jesus is African. Just as in His Body He is white, Asian, etc. Whatever a member of His Body is, so too is He. How he physically appeared isn't relevant to the larger fact that we are all in the Church.
MC Just Posted February 18, 2005 Author Posted February 18, 2005 (edited) [quote name='toledo_jesus' date='Feb 18 2005, 10:36 AM'] what the pope was saying is that in His Body (The Church) which includes Africans, Jesus is African. Just as in His Body He is white, Asian, etc. Whatever a member of His Body is, so too is He. How he physically appeared isn't relevant to the larger fact that we are all in the Church. [/quote] yeah true.. but on the page it says "more proof that Jesus is black".. I just get a little weirded out when all i see is white, asian, hispanic and black jesus' everywhere but i never see a hebrew Jesus. Edited February 18, 2005 by MC Just
Guest Eremite Posted February 18, 2005 Posted February 18, 2005 Are the natives of the Holy Land today black? Why would Jesus be any different? If the shroud of Turin is any indicator, he was brownish.
Melchisedec Posted February 18, 2005 Posted February 18, 2005 I wouldn't say black, but most likely of middle eastern persuation. He would have looked like the people who lived in that region back than and still today. Its interesting go around the world and see the varying images of jesus, including the black jesus. Im pretty positive he didnt have blue eyes though, but who knows.
toledo_jesus Posted February 18, 2005 Posted February 18, 2005 [quote name='MC Just' date='Feb 18 2005, 11:38 AM'] yeah true.. but on the page it says "more proof that Jesus is black".. I just get a little weirded out when all i see is white, asian and black jesus' everywhere but i never see a hebrew Jesus. [/quote] cultures have adapted Jesus to look like them throughout time. If you find some Hebrews and look at their depictions He will probably look like them. Trouble is finding Hebrews. Being able to see Jesus as one of us reinforces the idea that He died for our sins, and it also reinforces the idea that we are in His Body and there are different parts of the Body.
MC Just Posted February 18, 2005 Author Posted February 18, 2005 [quote name='Melchisedec' date='Feb 18 2005, 10:41 AM'] I wouldn't say black, but most likely of middle eastern persuation. He would have looked like the people who lived in that region back than and still today. Its interesting go around the world and see the varying images of jesus, including the black jesus. Im pretty positive he didnt have blue eyes though, but who knows. [/quote] He was a Jew so he most likely looked middle eastern.
Guest Eremite Posted February 18, 2005 Posted February 18, 2005 Although, the Jews of today may not be indicative of the Jews of Christ's time, as their looks may have changed over centuries of dispersion and intermarriage with non-Jews.
Socrates Posted February 18, 2005 Posted February 18, 2005 [quote name='Eremite' date='Feb 18 2005, 10:40 AM'] Are the natives of the Holy Land today black? Why would Jesus be any different? If the shroud of Turin is any indicator, he was brownish. [/quote] The shroud of Turin doesn't indicate his color of skin (it's a black-and-white photo negative). Jesus was Hebrew (Middle Eastern). End of story! Artists in different places/cultures always tend to portray Him as "one of their own." Any claim that He was black, Aryan, or anything else is stupid propaganda for some racial agenda.
Guest Eremite Posted February 18, 2005 Posted February 18, 2005 Socrates, No, it doesn't indicate the color is his skin, but the structure of his body indicates that he was not white.
Melchisedec Posted February 18, 2005 Posted February 18, 2005 [quote name='Eremite' date='Feb 18 2005, 10:51 AM'] Socrates, No, it doesn't indicate the color is his skin, but the structure of his body indicates that he was not white. [/quote] If in fact the shroud is true.
Guest Eremite Posted February 18, 2005 Posted February 18, 2005 After looking around his blog, (I didn't even know he had a blog), I think his assertion that "Jesus is black" might be tounge-in-cheek. He notes in another post that he calls himself black, even though he's white. I think he's just saying, "more proof that Jesus isn't Jebediah Clinton from Oklahoma."
toledo_jesus Posted February 18, 2005 Posted February 18, 2005 [quote name='Socrates' date='Feb 18 2005, 11:49 AM'] Jesus was Hebrew (Middle Eastern). End of story! Artists in different places/cultures always tend to portray Him as "one of their own." Any claim that He was black, Aryan, or anything else is stupid propaganda for some racial agenda. [/quote] right. his actual appearance doesn't matter. In His Body (the Church) He is black, brown, white, red, yellow, bronze or whatever.
Thy Geekdom Come Posted February 18, 2005 Posted February 18, 2005 When I was a little kid, one of my teachers mentioned that Jesus may have been black. I went home and asked my parents. They said, "no, I think he was dark skinned, but not black." I was sad and insistent and crying and wanted to see a His picture in the Bible so that I could make sure He wasn't black. They got worried, "what little kind of racist are we raising, here?" Then they asked me why it mattered if Jesus was black. I replied, "if He was black, then maybe He'd be playing out in the street at night and get run over by a cart!" Apparently, I wasn't racist, but they were also teaching us street safety in school at the time..."always wear bright colors...dark colors make it hard for drivers to see you..."
MichaelFilo Posted February 18, 2005 Posted February 18, 2005 Some Jews are light-skinned... He probably was middle Eastern colored though. The claims that the guy who helped Him carry the Cross (I can't remember the name right now... I'm sorry) was black however. Amongst Black Catholics (Not neccessarily African-American) there is an understanding of all the Black Catholics of prominent position(Four early popes, the guy who helped Jesus carry the Cross, some even say St.Augustine). None claim Jesus was black. God bless, Mikey
musturde Posted February 18, 2005 Posted February 18, 2005 Actually, I don't believe any of you read his comment. I posted before reading it too. [quote]A friend sent this article to me recently (probably because I'm black and he thought I'd enjoy it). I thought this statement by the Pope was really cool - especially the last line refrencing Christ in his body is...African. I love the fact that the Jesus Christ in the church embodies and embraces culture. I believe this is how we need to bring Christ to the world - bringing Christ into "the very center of peoples culture" not replacing their culture. Too often I think we perceive Christ as an American and we have a hard time seperating his person from western culture. Christ is bigger than that.[/quote] He's not taking the Pope literally. The part of him saying "more proof Jesus was black" was just a joke.
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