Church History

[dairygirl4u2c]

spanx again.

[Wynd]

I did kind of I guess. Before I really knew anything about Christianity except some stuff Jesus said, I decided wanted to be a part of the oldest church, because that would have been the one Jesus promised wouldn't fail. So this is where I ended up.

[yiannii]

I haven't fully studied Church history but I have read a really good book called "One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic" by Kenneth D. Whitehead - it is printed by IGNATIUS.

I have also come to really like and respect the writings of the Church Fathers who wrote letters about the truths of the Catholic Church way before the Bible was finally put together BY THE CATHOLIC CHURCH.

To study original documents in early Christian history is to discover the One True Church - the Catholic Church.

The word "Catholic" was first recorded in written form in around 107 AD by St Ignatius of Antioch used to describe the true Church and later used to distinguish the true Christians from all the heresies.

[yiannii]

If anyone wants a list of some fantastic Church history books just say so and I will put together a list for you.

[crusader1234]

I don't think the Church's history has much to do with its validity beyond Apostolic Tradition. I have studied it, but never with the idea of finding some historical fact out that disproves Catholocism becuase I doubt I'd find one that hadn't already been brought to my attentnion.

[argent_paladin]

I read my first book on Church History in order to get more informationl, as I was a protestant at the time. Now I study Church history because I love it.

[Cam42]

We come to know God (and ultimately His Church) through Faith and Reason. We are compelled as Christians to know and defend the Church. That is Apologetics. As Catholics, we need to be able to, to a greater or lesser degree, prove the authenticity of the Church.

Much of your poll is discussed by this current Holy Father in his various encyclicals, but no more important is Fides et Ratio.

Cam42

[God Conquers]

How could studying something make it true or not true?

[Cam42]

[quote]How could studying something make it true or not true?[/quote]

It doesn't, but it allows for understanding the truth of the matter. It also allows for learning about and giving an apologia (apology/proof) for said truth.

Cam42

[dairygirl4u2c]

i need more votes people!

this is my best poll yet.

[save ferris 101]

[quote name='yiannii' date='Feb 23 2005, 12:35 AM'] If anyone wants a list of some fantastic Church history books just say so and I will put together a list for you. [/quote]
me

[jasJis]

I studied Church history to prove it wrong.

It was my premise that we can respond to God based on indivdual calling by the Holy Spirit and did not need an institutional Church which would only add error and mislead. I found that individuals and/or groups in the Church could add error and mislead, but that the Church as an institution always had an anitidote or correction for every error and was always able to aid and assist a person responding to the personal call of the Holy Spirit. The institutional Church is/was much more of an aid to personal holiness than it was a hindrance. Don't strain at the gnat and swallow the camel.

Edited February 26, 2005 by jasJis

[Phatmasser777]

To Prove It. Ended up leaving the Church..LOL Shows how incompatible the Church is with REAL history.

[Guest Jakedubbleya]

I studied to enrich my knowledge of God.

The Catholic church is true through logic (theology) if it must be proven, history is a foundation that I undoubtedly assumed to be there (and of course it was).

so yeah i voted that i didnt study cuz it was true anyway or wutever. Looks like most people are trying to get the whole unbiased thing going for them, and in 2nd place us no studyers are tied with the study to provers.

And argent, glad to hear u converted, surely there is a special place in heaven for those that found their own way, welcome home bro!

Edited February 27, 2005 by Jakedubbleya

[Myles Domini]

[quote]To Prove It. Ended up leaving the Church..LOL Shows how incompatible the Church is with REAL history. [/quote]

I do not think its possible to maintain this statement but having been a History enthusiast all my life and now a student of Theology at Oxford University I agree with Venerable Cardinal Newman that:

[quote]To be steeped in History is to cease to be a Protestant[/quote]

[dairygirl4u2c]

Props to jas jis for thinking outside the box. I'm not sure if that's what I meant by that. I meant more like, I'm against the Catholic Church therefore I'm getting whatever information I can to back that up. (no possibility of conversion) But his interpretation is cool.

This survey reaffirms everything I've thought.

[cmotherofpirl]

I studied to prove it wrong.

[Phatmasser777]

[quote name='Myles' date='Feb 27 2005, 04:28 AM']
I do not think its possible to maintain this statement but having been a History enthusiast all my life and now a student of Theology at Oxford University I agree with Venerable Cardinal Newman that:

[/quote]
I agree. Protestantism is an invalid and man-made religion, it is as close to Christ's Christianity as Islam (a little over the top, but needed).

[yiannii]

[quote name='dairygirl4u2c' date='Mar 1 2005, 02:13 PM'] Props to jas jis for thinking outside the box. I'm not sure if that's what I meant by that. I meant more like, I'm against the Catholic Church therefore I'm getting whatever information I can to back that up. (no possibility of conversion) But his interpretation is cool.

This survey reaffirms everything I've thought. [/quote]
I wonder if you only look to reaffirm what you think.

I picked up on a sort of hate or anger vibe here...

I was wondering, what did this poll which you created in which only a small hand full of Phatmassers voted on reaffirm about the Catholic Church? I wonder how you could possibly draw a conclusion on an organisation with over 1 000 000 000 members with this tiny poll.