Scofizzle Posted March 8, 2005 Posted March 8, 2005 everyone call your resprentatives an senators [url="http://www.visi.com/juan/congress/index.html"]here[/url] and tell them to vote for this law now!!!!! [url="http://www.nrlc.org/euthanasia/Terri/FedLaw.html"]this law[/url]
Jake Huether Posted March 8, 2005 Posted March 8, 2005 [quote name='burnsspivey' date='Mar 8 2005, 03:48 PM'] This may be true, however her parents were the first to violate. It was 1993 when her parents filed their first motion and not until 1997 that his engagement was announced (according to her parents' site). I'm not arguing for what he did, I'm simply pointing out facts. [/quote] His engagement was announced in '97... When did he begin to have an affair?? What's more! They never have really determined the cause of her "accident". Just the facts... We don't have all the facts, but the parents wouldn't have filed a motion for anything if there wasn't something up in the first place. A husband wanting his wife dead is kinda odd. He never even gave her a chance at rehab. One account I read said that a nurse had placed a rag in her hand so that her finger nails wouldn't grow into her palm, and he ordered it removed because it was a form of theropy!
cmotherofpirl Posted March 9, 2005 Posted March 9, 2005 [quote name='burnsspivey' date='Mar 8 2005, 04:14 PM'] Her parents are doing everything they can to destroy the sanctity of their daughter's marriage. Why isn't anyone protesting that? [/quote] What marriage? The creep has a girlfriend and children. He's just in a hurry to get "to the death do us part" part to cash in on some money. If he loved his wife he wouldn't be trying to murder her.
MC Just Posted March 9, 2005 Posted March 9, 2005 [quote name='burnsspivey' date='Mar 8 2005, 02:14 PM'] Her parents are doing everything they can to destroy the sanctity of their daughter's marriage. Why isn't anyone protesting that? [/quote] Absolutely sick. :angry:
Guest Eremite Posted March 9, 2005 Posted March 9, 2005 (edited) Her parents aren't violating the sanctity of marriage. The Church permits civil divorce when it is a question of danger to one of the spouses, or their children. Your husband trying to kill you constitutes danger to Terri Schiavo, and her parents justly seek to obtain legal separation of the two (Sacramental separation is not possible, of course). Furthermore, even if Michael Shiavo succeeds in killing his wife, a legal divorce will ensure that he is not allowed to do with Terri whatever he wishes after her death (eg, cremate her). Edited March 9, 2005 by Eremite
Dave Posted March 9, 2005 Posted March 9, 2005 (edited) The husband doesn't want the proof of his physical abuse of Terri to come out in the open. But X-rays have already shown injuries of that nature. What's even more telling is that one day he said (can't remember if it was to a doctor, nurse, or her parents), "Is the beesh dead yet?" Oh yes, the sanctity of the Schiavo's marriage is being upheld SOOOOOO nicely on Michael Schiavo's part! Edited March 9, 2005 by Dave
crusader1234 Posted March 9, 2005 Posted March 9, 2005 This is actually good news. Its the longest extension of life support that Terry has been granted. Usually they only extend the appeal for another week before they review it.
burnsspivey Posted March 9, 2005 Posted March 9, 2005 [quote name='MC Just' date='Mar 8 2005, 10:48 PM'] Absolutely sick. :angry: [/quote] It is isn't it? They should be ashamed of themselves.
cmotherofpirl Posted March 9, 2005 Posted March 9, 2005 They are trying to prevent the murder of their child. Murder is sick.
franciscanheart Posted March 9, 2005 Posted March 9, 2005 I have been following Terri's case since the beginning, or close to it. My heart goes out to her.
MC Just Posted March 10, 2005 Posted March 10, 2005 [quote name='burnsspivey' date='Mar 9 2005, 03:20 PM'] It is isn't it? They should be ashamed of themselves. [/quote] I was talking about you not them. Her so called husband is with another woman and has kids by her, and at the same time he is trying to murder Terri. That is sick and wrong. I hate this culture of death and pray for it's fall and the rise of the culture of life. I will work as hard as i can to contribute to the creation of a culture of life. A culture without "the lie". Where innocent little babies, defenseless and disabled human beings are treated with dignity and respect. Right now the the weakest and most defenseless people have no voices, That's where us Pro-lifers come in. It's absoultely sickening, that godless and immoral people are in places of power.(I.E, supreme court) People who call good evil and evil good. Liberals and secularists with agendas of the spirit of destruction. Wake up. Rise from the dead.
Birgitta Noel Posted March 10, 2005 Posted March 10, 2005 Just a point of information. It is my understanding that Michael Schaivio has little to nothing to gain financially. Any $$ that was coming to him has been spent on attorney fees and the like....
jasJis Posted March 10, 2005 Posted March 10, 2005 It's daily news here in Tampa. Yes, all of Micheal Schiavo's money has been spent on lawyers finally. That is recent. But he would be hard pressed to walk away now since he is a nationally known person and everyone would say "See! He did it for money." A little update. 2 motions were rejected by Judge Greer yesterday. The State Legislature is working on a law that gives 'habeous corpus' rights to a person who cannot speak for themselves which means their medical issues are reviewed by the Courts. I don't really understand it, but it is rights that are given to persons on Death Row and the new law is attempting to provide the same protection to people currently fully dependent on others. I don't believe it includes extraordinary medical care, but food and water, even if given intravaneously, are not considered extraordinary. Also, keep in mind, Micheal Schiavo has successfully blocked any kind of therapy that would have tried to get Terri to take food orally and has blocked any one from attempting to give Terri food and water orally when the feeding tube is removed.
popestpiusx Posted March 10, 2005 Posted March 10, 2005 (edited) All of Michael's money has not been spent, unless by that we mean, all the money he had in his account recently. He still stands to gain more in life insurance, inheritance, and malpractice awards. It seems that part of his hesitance to grant a divorce is that it would sink him financially. Edited March 10, 2005 by popestpiusx
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burnsspivey Posted March 10, 2005 Posted March 10, 2005 [quote name='MC Just' date='Mar 10 2005, 12:40 AM'] I was talking about you not them. Her so called husband is with another woman and has kids by her, and at the same time he is trying to murder Terri. That is sick and wrong. I hate this culture of death and pray for it's fall and the rise of the culture of life. I will work as hard as i can to contribute to the creation of a culture of life. A culture without "the lie". Where innocent little babies, defenseless and disabled human beings are treated with dignity and respect. Right now the the weakest and most defenseless people have no voices, That's where us Pro-lifers come in. It's absoultely sickening, that godless and immoral people are in places of power.(I.E, supreme court) People who call good evil and evil good. Liberals and secularists with agendas of the spirit of destruction. Wake up. Rise from the dead. [/quote] I was being deliberately obtuse, good job on picking that up. However, my point stands that the parents made the first move in violating the sanctity of their marriage.
jasJis Posted March 10, 2005 Posted March 10, 2005 burns, That's not true. The parents and Micheal got along well untill just a couple of years after the settlement was paid to Micheal. That was when Micheal began preventing and reducing therapy to help Terri. The sanctity of marriage is to care for your spouse through sickness and health. Micheal was limiting the care Terri got and when the arguments started, began limiting the parents contact with Terri.
burnsspivey Posted March 10, 2005 Posted March 10, 2005 [quote name='jasJis' date='Mar 10 2005, 12:30 PM'] burns, That's not true. The parents and Micheal got along well untill just a couple of years after the settlement was paid to Micheal. That was when Micheal began preventing and reducing therapy to help Terri. The sanctity of marriage is to care for your spouse through sickness and health. Micheal was limiting the care Terri got and when the arguments started, began limiting the parents contact with Terri. [/quote] In essence, her parents didn't like the way that her husband was directing her medical care. Thus, they decided that they should step in. It's her husband's job to direct her medical care and they interfered because they didn't agree with him.
1337 k4th0l1x0r Posted March 10, 2005 Posted March 10, 2005 [quote name='burnsspivey' date='Mar 10 2005, 12:10 PM'] In essence, her parents didn't like the way that her husband was directing her medical care. Thus, they decided that they should step in. It's her husband's job to direct her medical care and they interfered because they didn't agree with him. [/quote] They interfered because he wanted to starve her to death. If my spouse were to try to do that to me I pray that my parents would step in.
cmotherofpirl Posted March 10, 2005 Posted March 10, 2005 [quote name='burnsspivey' date='Mar 10 2005, 03:10 PM'] In essence, her parents didn't like the way that her husband was directing her medical care. Thus, they decided that they should step in. It's her husband's job to direct her medical care and they interfered because they didn't agree with him. [/quote] But he is not tryiong to direct her medical care, he is trying to murder her.
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