God and Logic

[Paphnutius]

[quote name='jasJis' date='Mar 11 2005, 07:10 AM'] Certainly, without a doubt, if He chooses to.
It's God's choice to be logical so that we can relate to Him, grasp a bit of understanding, and have a relationship with Him. It's God choice to talk to us in simplified terms that we can understand, but it's our limits, not His. [/quote]
By definition of what 3 is, and by definition of what 4 is, the only outcome can be by definition what 7 is. If there was a God that could act outside of logic, would we want to relate to Him? If God said that He would be merciful, but then could turn on that would that be better? If God could act contrary to reason then we could have no assurance of anything

I guess the answer to your question would be He would never choose to because it cannot be done.

[Paphnutius]

[quote name='Apotheoun' date='Mar 11 2005, 12:50 AM']
Moreover, it must be borne in mind that when the Greek term [i]logos[/i] is translated into English as [i]word[/i] it does not mean simply a spoken or written word; instead, it means the utterance of wisdom or reason signifying the nature of the thing in question. Furthermore, when this Greek word is used specifically of the divine [i]Logos[/i] it concerns the cause of creation and of the order present within the cosmos. That is why the Greek Church has never understood the Johannine term [i]Logos[/i] to mean simply a [i]word[/i], rather it has always believed that the eternal [i]Logos[/i] -- as that which gives being and meaning to the whole of creation -- is the uncreated divine reason itself, [i]hypostatically[/i] distinct from the Father, and yet one in essence ([i]homoousios[/i]) with Him.

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Yes we in the Roman rite are aware of that as well. I was simply pointing out the it does not mean logic as we know it. That is why I suggested we depart from using the word logic in this discussion.

[Apotheoun]

[quote name='Paphnutius' date='Mar 11 2005, 06:16 AM'] Yes we in the Roman rite are aware of that as well. I was simply pointing out the it does not mean logic as we know it. That is why I suggested we depart from using the word logic in this discussion. [/quote]
My post was meant as a clarification for MichaelFilo.

As far as the word "logic" is concerned, it is etymologically derived from the Greek word "logos"; so, I have no problem with its use [i]per se[/i] in relation to God, but I agree with you on this, and I normally prefer to translate the word "logos" into English as "reason," or to avoid the problem entirely, I leave it untranslated and simply transliterate it as "logos."