Unicef

[Anna]

http://www.catholic.net/culture_of_life/te...&article_id=526

[littleflower+JMJ]

so its an organization for children...but support abortion?

that is so wrong!!

how can they claim to help the children while at the same time supporting killing the unborn?

grr!!

some ppl..... <_<

[Anna]

Secular organizations, made up of secular people, with secular ideals, and secular solutions to life's problems, such as poverty, sickness, hunger, birth defects...The quick fix: contracept, sterilize, abort. :(

[musturde]

wierd

[VeraMaria]

I went trick or treating for them this Halloween. So did more than half my school. :(

[immaculata]

Our Key Club supports UNICEF :(

[VeraMaria]

Our Key Club supports UNICEF

All our Key Club DOES is get money and support Unicef and the Salvation Army.

[Ellenita]

Did you read to the end of the article?

“There are two camps in the Catholic NGO community,” said Joseph Klee, who served as president of the International Catholic Organizations from 1991 to 1994 and until 1995 as a deputy director in the U.N.’s Office of Oversight.

“One camp supports U.N. social-justice activities generally, programs the Holy Father has repeatedly expressed support for,” Klee said. “The other camp is pro-life and pro-family, and they are on a different page.”

“If we know of certain projects and activities that are not part of the UNICEF mandate, we should criticize them — but not UNICEF as such, because they have a very fine mission" Klee says

The quote in bold is my emphasis.

[Monica]

Is it so wrong to support Unicef if it does help children, in the long run??

I mean, it also helps children in this way;

If a woman has 4 children to take care of, and she's about to have a 5th one, and she's very poor, if Unicef helps her get an abortion, it's helping children isn't it?

[Dave]

If a woman has 4 children to take care of, and she's about to have a 5th one, and she's very poor, if Unicef helps her get an abortion, it's helping children isn't it?

It's not helping children to kill them, no matter what their mother's circumstances are!

[jasJis]

Another horrid thing that UNICEF does is their battle against international adoptions. How does that help children??

They have recently caused all South America to North America adoptions to be halted becasue they say it takes children out of their ethnic culture. As if ethnic culture is more important than loving parents.

Monica,

Ask t he 5th child if it was worth dying and if it is better to be dead than poor. Ask a poor person that. You have just stated one of the meanest things I've ever read. :(

[littleflower+JMJ]

Is it so wrong to support Unicef if it does help children, in the long run??

I mean, it also helps children in this way;

If a woman has 4 children to take care of, and she's about to have a 5th one, and she's very poor, if Unicef helps her get an abortion, it's helping children isn't it?

God said it best when he said "Thou shall not kill"

abortion is murder. cold blooded murder. an unborn baby killed straight from the womb.

help kill a baby?

a baby that God created and who God blest us with.

abortion is evil. its a sin. and to compromise life in any way is to destroy the most priceless gifts from God....precious Life

how sad to hear someone speak of such.

what part of thou shall not kill do you not understand?

[Uncle Gus]

If a woman has 4 children to take care of, and she's about to have a 5th one, and she's very poor, if Unicef helps her get an abortion, it's helping children isn't it?

Surely someone assinating Hitler would have been good for the world as a whole, right?

Wrong. The end does not justify the means. Murder is murder. Case closed.

[Ellenita]

I didn't think the article that Anna originally posted clearly stated that UNICEF supports abortion. As an organisation, it appears it is concerned with access to contraception however and that's an entirely different thing. Please read the whole of the article. Although it's obviously not supporting the work of UNICEF per se, it does say that the organisation does do some good work which "the Holy Father has repeatedly expressed support for"

[Anna]

Did you read to the end of the article?

The quote in bold is my emphasis.

Klee doesn't speak for the Church, and hasn't held a position representing the Church since 1994, according to that article.

Interestingly, the article also states that:

In 1996, concerns about the direction of UNICEF programs prompted the Holy See to cancel its symbolic funding of the agency — a gesture that has not been rescinded.

The Vatican cited “participation of UNICEF in the publication of a U.N. manual advocating the distribution of abortifacient ‘post-coital contraceptives’ to refugee women in emergency situations,” referring to the U.N. “Reproductive Health in Refugee Situations: An Interagency Field Manual,” which UNICEF helped write.

Mr. Klee may think Unicef has "a very fine mission," but the Vicar of Christ apparently does not.

Pax Christi. <><

Ok, Monica, we need to start a pro-life thread for you....Girl, you need to consider the SANCTITY of each human life, not attempt to judge one's quality of life by your own comfortable standards!

Jesus was born in a stable. Should Mary have aborted Him? Maybe He was telling us something there!!!

[foundsheep]

Is it so wrong to support Unicef if it does help children, in the long run??

I mean, it also helps children in this way;

If a woman has 4 children to take care of, and she's about to have a 5th one, and she's very poor, if Unicef helps her get an abortion, it's helping children isn't it?

If you feel this way then you have touched on an important aspect of the church. The right to life. Gods right to create, in which no one may violate. Murder is murder. And especially the way you put it, abortion as birth control. Disgusting!

[Ellenita]

"participation of UNICEF in a publication of a UN manual advocating the distribution of abortifacient 'post coital contraceptives' to refugee women in emergency situations

I suspect this relates to the situation where many hundreds of women were routinely and deliberately raped during wars in their countries. Evidence of such war crimes as they have been recognised certainly exists in Bosnia and Rwanda. It may be that UNICEF thought it was appropriate to support the distribution of the 'morning after' pill in such circumstances. I'm not sure that I could justify arguing against it under those circumstances.

[littleflower+JMJ]

contraceptives are abortificent

may have a different name, but its the same game. its all abortion. just at different stages.

murder is murder.

+JMJ

[Uncle Gus]

Originally posted by Ellenita

I'm not sure that I could justify arguing against it under those circumstances.

I can. Is it the fault of the child how it was brought into being? Does he/she deserve to be killed for the fault of his/her parents?

And to the mother I say this; bad things happen. Deal with it. You (like all sinners) deserve far, far worse. Harsh but true.

Edited November 3, 2003 by Uncle Gus

[foundsheep]

I suspect this relates to the situation where many hundreds of women were routinely and deliberately raped during wars in their countries. Evidence of such war crimes as they have been recognised certainly exists in Bosnia and Rwanda. It may be that UNICEF thought it was appropriate to support the distribution of the 'morning after' pill in such circumstances. I'm not sure that I could justify arguing against it under those circumstances.

Could you look at in a way of being a martyr for christ. raising a child through those circumstances?