socalscout Posted April 2, 2005 Posted April 2, 2005 I'm sorry but I have had it up to here listening to members of the media speak of him in the past tense. This is a human who is dying and I am sure it would frighten most assuming of course he is cognitive. Is someone holding his hand? Is he in pain? Is he with loved ones not just people who are waiting for him to die? Its killing me.
Catholictothecore Posted April 2, 2005 Posted April 2, 2005 you are absolutely right....love your avator.
Piccoli Fiori JMJ Posted April 2, 2005 Posted April 2, 2005 For all we know he could hold out in this state for months!
socalscout Posted April 2, 2005 Author Posted April 2, 2005 [quote name='Catholictothecore' date='Apr 1 2005, 11:42 PM'] you are absolutely right....love your avator. [/quote] Thanks!
kateri05 Posted April 2, 2005 Posted April 2, 2005 i'm sure he has all his close aides (ie friends) and confidants around him. not to mention, the angels, saints and our Lady of Hope keeping him company -_- that being said, the media does stink.
P3chrmd Posted April 2, 2005 Posted April 2, 2005 I agree...we shouldn't speak of him in the past! He is, after all, still with us!
socalscout Posted April 2, 2005 Author Posted April 2, 2005 (edited) [quote name='FutureNunJMJ' date='Apr 1 2005, 11:42 PM'] For all we know he could hold out in this state for months! [/quote] Yes he could. The man took a bullet. He's as tough as Reagan! Edited April 2, 2005 by socalscout
Aloysius Posted April 2, 2005 Posted April 2, 2005 I think they have nothing else to report about the current state of the pope, so they're talking about his life. he did this he did that et cetera, and that's good for past tense. I've heard Fox News a few times say stuff like "this is a pope who" still in present tense... I really like the way the media has been handling this this far, well, our media not necessarily the italians ... anyway, they're just talking about his whole papacy so I understand why they're using the past tense.
argent_paladin Posted April 2, 2005 Posted April 2, 2005 But Reagan took a bullet too! Both had to endure much hardship and are linked by many threads. It was a sad day when Reagan died and it will be a sad day when JPII goes.
M.A.N. Posted April 2, 2005 Posted April 2, 2005 (edited) I believe the Pope took two bullets that horrible day. Both Reagan and the Pope are great men Edited April 2, 2005 by M.A.N.
socalscout Posted April 2, 2005 Author Posted April 2, 2005 [quote name='Aloysius' date='Apr 1 2005, 11:45 PM'] I think they have nothing else to report about the current state of the pope, so they're talking about his life. he did this he did that et cetera, and that's good for past tense. I've heard Fox News a few times say stuff like "this is a pope who" still in present tense... I really like the way the media has been handling this this far, well, our media not necessarily the italians ... anyway, they're just talking about his whole papacy so I understand why they're using the past tense. [/quote] I agree and tributes to him is in order and respectful but its getting to the point that everyone is just waiting for him to die. Granted the Vatican did say it would happen soon. I'm just frustrated.
cmotherofpirl Posted April 2, 2005 Posted April 2, 2005 (edited) Of course we are waiting. How else would you describe it? The Vatican has said he is in extremis. So the world waits and holds its breath. God is giving the world time to adjust to the shock. Think of it this way. Fox news has had live coverage for what, 24 hours? So for 24 hours there has been nothing on but faithful Catholic teaching on the value and dignity of the human person, how the history of the world was changed by this one faithful man, and how to die with grace and peace. [ in very great contrast to the murder of Terri Schiavo]. He is still teaching us, even at the end. Edited April 2, 2005 by cmotherofpirl
the_rev Posted April 2, 2005 Posted April 2, 2005 I told my grandma that, she's like well were not all perfect like you.
Tony Posted April 2, 2005 Posted April 2, 2005 someone on Fox news late last night said the pope didnt agree with Vatican II I find that hard to believe
DemonSlayer Posted April 2, 2005 Posted April 2, 2005 I just wish I could've seen him in person, I should've gone to the 2002 WYD.
Tony Posted April 2, 2005 Posted April 2, 2005 [quote name='DemonSlayer' date='Apr 2 2005, 12:50 PM'] I just wish I could've seen him in person, I should've gone to the 2002 WYD. [/quote] I didn't even know about it.. until it was going on...I could of probably gone with someone since Toronto isnt all that far from Northern Ohio
DemonSlayer Posted April 2, 2005 Posted April 2, 2005 Well, since I decided not to go to that one, I would've hoped to see him at this year's.
Aloysius Posted April 2, 2005 Posted April 2, 2005 [quote name='Tony' date='Apr 2 2005, 12:42 PM'] someone on Fox news late last night said the pope didnt agree with Vatican II I find that hard to believe [/quote] LOL! He helped to MAKE Vatican II, I think he knows what it means better than them!
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