megamattman1 Posted April 17, 2005 Share Posted April 17, 2005 Saint's Prophecy: Only Two Popes Remain When the cardinals of the world pick John Paul II's successor, they may well be choosing the next-to-last pope. The pope who then follows this choice in the Chair of St. Peter will be the last pope, and after his reign Rome will be destroyed. Such has been the prophecy of St. Malachy, an Irish bishop who at his death in 1148 A.D. was discovered to have left behind a prophetic list of all future popes beginning with Pope Celestine II, whose papacy began in 1143 A.D. Malachy included a single line in Latin identifying a characteristic of each pope. Historians say Malachy's prediction – wherein he listed just 112 popes – has been amazingly accurate. According to his list, there are just two more popes after the late John Paul II. Here are the seven last popes as identified from St. Malachy's list: 106. Pius XII 1939 - 1958 Eugenio Pacelli Pastor Angelicus Translated: An Angelic Shepherd 107. John XXIII 1968 - 1963 Angelo Giuseppe Roncalli Pastor Et Natua Translated: Pastor and Mariner 108. Paul VI 1963 - 1978 Giovanni Battista Montini Flos Florum Translated: Flower of Flowers 109. John Paul I 1978 - 1978 Albino Luciani De Medietate Lunae Translated: Of the Half Moon 110. John Paul II 1978 - 2005 Karol Jozef Wojtyla De Labore Solis Translated: From the Toil of the Sun 111. The next pope "Gloria Olivae" Translated: The Glory of the Olive 112. The last pope! "Petrus Romanus" Translated: Peter the Roman Wrote St. Malachy of the last pope: "In extreme persecution, the seat of the Holy Roman Church will be occupied by Peter the Roman, who will feed the sheep through many tribulations, at the term of which the city of seven hills will be destroyed, and the formidable Judge will judge the people. The End." According to his biographer St. Bernard of Clairvaux, in his book "Life of Saint Malachy," the saint was known to have the gift of prophesy and had even predicted the exact day and hour of his own death. Saint Malachy was canonized in 1190 by Pope Clement III. While in Rome in 1139, Saint Malachy is said to have gone into a trance and received a vision in which he foresaw all the popes from the death of Innocent II until the end of time. Afterward he wrote a few words about each pope and gave the manuscript to Pope Innocent II, who is said to have deposited it in Vatican Archives, where it lay forgotten until it was discovered in 1590 and published. At the time, some questioned its authenticity and it has been the subject of debate ever since. The manuscript contains 112 prophecies, which scholars have matched with each of the 110 popes and anti-popes since Innocent II . Here are the prophecies for the most recent popes: Paul VI. The words of the 108th prophecy are "Flos Florum" (Flower of Flowers). The 108th pope after Innocent II was Paul VI (1963-78). His coat of arms included three fleurs-de-lis (iris blossoms). John Paul I. The 109th is "De Medietate Lunae" (Of the Half Moon). The corresponding pope was John Paul I (1978-78), who was born in the diocese of Belluno (beautiful moon) and was baptized Albino Luciani (white light). He became pope on August 26, 1978, when the moon appeared exactly half full. It was in its waning phase. He died the following month, soon after an eclipse of the moon. John Paul II. The 110th is "De Labore Solis" (Of the Solar Eclipse, or From the Toil of the Sun). The corresponding pope was John Paul II (1978-2005). John Paul II was born on May 8, 1920 during an eclipse of the sun. Like the sun, he came out of the East (Poland). Like the sun, he visited countries all around the globe. Today the final two prophecies are yet to be fulfilled: The 111th prophecy is "Gloria Olivae" (The Glory of the Olive). The meaning of the olive is unclear. The Order of Saint Benedict – not St. Malachy – has claimed that this pope will come from its ranks and Saint Benedict himself prophesied that before the end of the world his Order, known also as the Olivetans, will triumphantly lead the Catholic Church in its final fight against evil. The 112th prophecy says, "In the final persecution of the Holy Roman Church there will reign Petrus Romanus (Peter the Roman), who will feed his flock amid many tribulations; after which the seven-hilled city will be destroyed and the dreadful Judge will judge the people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archangel Posted April 17, 2005 Share Posted April 17, 2005 Are any of the cardinals from St. Benedict's Order? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thy Geekdom Come Posted April 17, 2005 Share Posted April 17, 2005 St. Malachy's prophecies have not been accepted or validated in any way by the Church. We don't even know if he really wrote them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Adam Posted April 17, 2005 Share Posted April 17, 2005 [quote name='Raphael' date='Apr 17 2005, 03:05 AM'] St. Malachy's prophecies have not been accepted or validated in any way by the Church. We don't even know if he really wrote them. [/quote] Which gives us all kinds of red flags. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Eremite Posted April 17, 2005 Share Posted April 17, 2005 (edited) The "prophecies" of Malachy are generally regarded as forgeries, not real. Just for fun, though, if they are real, the "glory of the olives" could refer to a few things. There really aren't any viable benedictines in the running, so it may very well refer to a Jewish Pope. Remember St. Paul speaks of the "well cultivated olive tree" on which the Gentiles were grafted, and which the Jews were branches on, before being cut off. Jean Cardinal Marie Lustiger of Montreal is Jewish. Edited April 17, 2005 by Eremite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antonius Posted April 17, 2005 Share Posted April 17, 2005 [quote name='Eremite' date='Apr 17 2005, 09:39 AM'] Jean Cardinal Marie Lustiger of Montreal is Jewish. [/quote] Gee, I hope he's Catholic too, if he's a cardinal. Wow. J/K! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aloysius Posted April 17, 2005 Share Posted April 17, 2005 St. Malachy scares me... even if it's only slightly more credible than Nostradamus. anyway, it's interesting. I wouldn't put it past the cardinals to pick a hebrew for the next pope.. hmm... interesting interesting... :ph34r: who knows. the only reason they say they're a forgery is because there's no reference to them in the biography written of him by his close friend, but it's possible he kept them secret... anyway, I don't really buy it, though I'd be more inclined to believe it than Nostradamus, neither are all that credible be ready for the end at any time... it could come right... NOW; or NOW; or NOW; :ph34r: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archangel Posted April 19, 2005 Share Posted April 19, 2005 (edited) [quote]The 111th prophecy is "Gloria Olivae" (The Glory of the Olive). The meaning of the olive is unclear. The Order of Saint Benedict – not St. Malachy – has claimed that this pope will come from its ranks and Saint Benedict himself prophesied that before the end of the world his Order, known also as the Olivetans, will triumphantly lead the Catholic Church in its final fight against evil.[/quote] "Gloria Olivae" (The Glory of the Olive) ... Olivetans ... Saint Benedict ... Pope Benedict XVI Hmmm... Edited April 19, 2005 by Archangel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
infinitelord1 Posted April 19, 2005 Share Posted April 19, 2005 aliens exist archangel....it is not a laughing matter. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archangel Posted April 19, 2005 Share Posted April 19, 2005 Huh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timothy Posted April 19, 2005 Share Posted April 19, 2005 1951 June 29: Georg and Josef Ratzinger are ordained into the priesthood by Cardinal Faulhaber, [b]in the Cathedral at Freising[/b], on the Feast of Saints Peter and Paul. Now if we look at the Cathedral at Freising: The sanctuary of Our Lady, which existed on the mountain near Freising before the coming of St. Corbinian, became the cathedral, and [b]was served by the Benedictine monks.[/b] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thessalonian Posted April 19, 2005 Share Posted April 19, 2005 [quote name='Brother Adam' date='Apr 17 2005, 09:33 AM'] Which gives us all kinds of red flags. [/quote] Actually not really. The Church generally stays out of things like this. They have not made pronouncements about St. John Boscoes prophecies. There is no definitive statement on the Shroud, saying it is only a relic worthy of veneration. It merely means the Church is nuetral if they have not made a judgement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paphnutius Posted April 19, 2005 Share Posted April 19, 2005 Thinking ahead. If people really do buy into this prophecy then what on earth is the next pope going to feel like? I mean really, c'mon. I would be terrified becoming the next pope if a lot of people were buying into this prophecy and considered me the anti-Christ. I do not think that the next pope would be foolish enough to take the name of anything that could be associated with Peter either. Might meant he could be Italian though...who knows. The thing is that even if the prophecy were correct it would not change how I life right now. I mean if I knew that the next pope would be the last pope I would still try to live as the best Catholic I could regardless of the fact of the world ending. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myles Domini Posted April 19, 2005 Share Posted April 19, 2005 Paph the next Pope according to Malachy isnt supposed to be the antichrist. He's supposed to be the one who leads the Church through the final persecution (which is far scarier than people thinking you're the devil). I mean lets see list the good things 1) you're going to be the man everyone turns to when they're being persecuted--wow what a light weight to go on your shoulders; 2) Rome is going to be destroyed whilst you're occupying the Holy See and 3) you're going to be the first one to see the Lion of Judah when he comes looking for his keys. For as St James reminds us the teachers will be judged more harshly than the rest. Joy above joy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timothy Posted April 19, 2005 Share Posted April 19, 2005 [quote name='Paphnutius' date='Apr 19 2005, 05:25 PM'] The thing is that even if the prophecy were correct it would not change how I life right now. I mean if I knew that the next pope would be the last pope I would still try to live as the best Catholic I could regardless of the fact of the world ending. [/quote] I definitely agree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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