is porn a mortal sin?

[*lil girl 4 jesus*]

is porn a mortal sin?

[Q the Ninja]

Most likely...definitely grave matter.

[Guest Eremite]

[quote]Pornography consists in removing real or simulated sexual acts from the intimacy of the partners, in order to display them deliberately to third parties. It offends against chastity because it perverts the conjugal act, the intimate giving of spouses to each other. It does grave injury to the dignity of its participants (actors, vendors, the public), since each one becomes an object of base pleasure and illicit profit for others. It immerses all who are involved in the illusion of a fantasy world. It is a grave offense. Civil authorities should prevent the production and distribution of pornographic materials.

---Catechism of the Catholic Church, #2354[/quote]

[Fides_et_Ratio]

Because it is grave matter, with full knowledge and consent, yes, viewing/distributing/etc pornography would be a mortal sin.

[Cam42]

[quote name='*lil girl 4 jesus*' date='Jun 12 2005, 04:21 PM']is porn a mortal sin?
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[quote]Pornography consists in removing real or simulated sexual acts from the intimacy of the partners, in order to display them deliberately to third parties. It offends against chastity because it perverts the conjugal act, the intimate giving of spouses to each other. It does grave injury to the dignity of its participants (actors, vendors, the public), since each one becomes an object of base pleasure and illicit profit for others. It immerses all who are involved in the illusion of a fantasy world. It is a grave offense. Civil authorities should prevent the production and distribution of pornographic materials. (CCC 2354)[/quote]

[quote]Among the sins gravely contrary to chastity are masturbation, fornication, pornography, and homosexual practices. (CCC 2396)[/quote]

Yep...pornography is a mortal sin...The three criteria are met in all instances...grave matter, intent, and knowledge.of the action as sinful.

[Semalsia]

At what point does a simple image turn in to pornography? What defines something as pornography?

Would vacation pictures of me at the beach be considered porn? Does the amount of clothing matter? What causes arousal varies a lot, so can any picture be considered porn? Or is it only the context in which the image is shown/taken? So if my vacation pictures were to be stolen, would they turn in porn? Can a picture at the same time be porn and not be porn, if it causes arousal on one group but not on any other? Is the real question "what is porn to you"?

[inDEED]

[quote name='jhoney-t' date='Jun 12 2005, 10:12 AM'] \
ah yo my name is j.t  I love rap i am a rapper i'm not going to brag or any thing but i have multiple skills
i'm 12 years old got any questins about my life ask
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Porn is bad...mmkay?

[Cam42]

[quote name='Semalsia' date='Jun 12 2005, 06:40 PM']At what point does a simple image turn in to pornography? What defines something as  pornography?

Would vacation pictures of me at the beach be considered porn? Does the amount of clothing matter? What causes arousal varies a lot, so can any picture be considered porn? Or is it only the context in which the image is shown/taken? So if my vacation pictures were to be stolen, would they turn in porn? Can a picture at the same time be porn and not be porn, if it causes arousal on one group but not on any other? Is the real question "what is porn to you"?
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Ummmm.....did you read my post above? No? Here ya go.

[quote]Pornography consists in removing real or simulated sexual acts from the intimacy of the partners, in order to display them deliberately to third parties. It offends against chastity because it perverts the conjugal act, the intimate giving of spouses to each other. It does grave injury to the dignity of its participants (actors, vendors, the public), since each one becomes an object of base pleasure and illicit profit for others. It immerses all who are involved in the illusion of a fantasy world. It is a grave offense. Civil authorities should prevent the production and distribution of pornographic materials. (CCC 2354)[/quote]

[Don John of Austria]

So would it would not be porn from the above definition for a married couple to tape themselves and them watch it later as a prelude to sex.

[Aloysius]

I can see this is gonna be another one of THOSE discussions... oh boy. lol

well, DJ, I'd say I guess that's alright theoretically.

[Guest]

[quote name='Don John of Austria' date='Jun 12 2005, 06:56 PM']So would it would not be porn from the above definition for a married couple to tape themselves and them watch it later as a prelude to sex.
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If I ever get called to marriage, I cant wait to do this

[Cam42]

[quote name='Don John of Austria' date='Jun 12 2005, 06:56 PM']So would it would not be porn from the above definition for a married couple to tape themselves and them watch it later as a prelude to sex.
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While I understand that it was meant as a joke, porn (in a broad sense) offends against chastity because it perverts the conjugal act, the intimate giving of spouses to each other. Porn also immerses all who are involved in the illusion of a fantasy world. It is a grave offense. This would apply to the married couple as well.

Engaging in such fantasy is a degredation of the conjugal act and is an inhibitor of the love that spouses are to have.

[Don John of Austria]

[quote name='Aloysius' date='Jun 12 2005, 07:02 PM']I can see this is gonna be another one of THOSE discussions... oh boy.  lol

well, DJ, I'd say I guess that's alright theoretically.
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hey I am just trying to get a working definition here--- this time I am really not trying to start anything. I have always advised agianst this to people who asked me about it, but it doesn't violatethe above definition.

[Apotheoun]

[quote name='Don John of Austria' date='Jun 12 2005, 04:56 PM']So would it would not be porn from the above definition for a married couple to tape themselves and them watch it later as a prelude to sex.
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This kind of behavior is intrinsically immoral because it involves the objectification of the spouses for the purpose of sexual gratification and titillation, even if it is done with their mutual consent. The spouses do not have a right to simply "use" each other as sexual objects, nor do they have a right to voluntarily offer themselves to each other in this way. This kind of behavior violates the sanctity of the conjugal act.

[Cam42]

[quote name='Apotheoun' date='Jun 12 2005, 08:08 PM']This kind of behavior is intrinsically immoral because it involves the objectification of the spouses for the purpose of sexual gratification and titillation, even if it is done with their mutual consent.  The spouses do not have a right to simply "use" each other as sexual objects, nor do they have a right to voluntarily offer themselves to each other in this way. This kind of behavior violates the sanctity of the conjugal act.
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Exactly....