Women to be ordained "Catholic" priest ...

[melporcristo]

[url="http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=domesticNews&storyID=8723619"]http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?t...storyID=8723619[/url]

OTTAWA (Reuters) - Nine North American Catholic women will be ordained priests or deacons next month in what will amount to a test of Pope Benedict's determination to enforce the Vatican's ban on women's ordination.
The July 25 ceremony will take place on a boat on the St. Lawrence River in a bid to be in international waters, the coordinator said on Tuesday, though the U.S.-Canadian border actually goes down the middle of the river.

In a further challenge to Vatican orthodoxy, the women may be married, divorced or remarried -- "as long as they're in a stable relationship or are a stable person," said U.S. activist Judith Johnson, who is organizing the ordination.

Eight of the women are American and one is Canadian.

The movement started with the ordination of seven women on the Danube River in Germany in 2002. Two of them, Christine Mayr-Lumetzberger of Austria and Gisela Forster of Germany, will be ordaining the four priests and five deacons on the St. Lawrence. The two say they have been made bishops by Catholic bishops in good standing with Rome.

But in 2003, Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger -- now Pope Benedict -- excommunicated the "Danube Seven."

The rebels' Web site says there have been no further excommunications even though more women were ordained deacons on the Danube in 2004. A further ordination ceremony is set to be held on a boat near Lyons, France, on July 2.

The Roman Catholic Church teaches that women's ordination violates biblical commands, and the late Pope John Paul ruled in 1994 that the Vatican could not even consider the issue.

Johnson predicted that would change. "New changes don't come very quickly. It comes from the people," she told Reuters.

© Reuters 2005. All Rights Reserved.

[FranciscanRocker25]

i say the canadian brainwashed the 8 americans.

[Brother Adam]

ahahahaha. no.

[MC Just]

It wont be valid anyhow. No bishop or priest has the authority to confer such things. JPII made that clear. Not even the Pope has such authority, the prietshood was founded by Christ, man cant change what he instituted...

[melporcristo]

i totally think they are just waiting to be excommunicated. It will be interesting to how this turns out. Please pray these women don't go through with this.

[Cam42]

[quote name='MC Just' date='Jun 14 2005, 08:47 AM']It wont be valid anyhow. No bishop or priest has the authority to confer such things. JPII made that clear.  Not even the Pope has such authority, the prietshood was founded by Christ, man cant change what he instituted...
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That is exactly right.....Take a look at [url="http://www.vatican.va/holy_father/john_paul_ii/apost_letters/documents/hf_jp-ii_apl_22051994_ordinatio-sacerdotalis_en.html"]Ordinatio Sacerdotalis[/url].

[quote]Although the teaching that priestly ordination is to be reserved to men alone has been preserved by the constant and universal Tradition of the Church and firmly taught by the Magisterium in its more recent documents, at the present time in some places it is nonetheless considered still open to debate, or the Church's judgment that women are not to be admitted to ordination is considered to have a merely disciplinary force.

Wherefore, in order that all doubt may be removed regarding a matter of great importance, a matter which pertains to the Church's divine constitution itself, in virtue of my ministry of confirming the brethren (cf. Lk 22:32) I declare that the Church has no authority whatsoever to confer priestly ordination on women and that this judgment is to be definitively held by all the Church's faithful. (OS #4)[/quote]

[Thy Geekdom Come]

We should thank these people, really...it's about to become [b]very[/b] clear that they can't do that.

[EcceNovaFacioOmni]

What is the significance of being in international waters?

[Thy Geekdom Come]

[quote name='thedude' date='Jun 14 2005, 10:39 AM']What is the significance of being in international waters?
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They aren't in a diocese. No local bishop...that forces the pope to act.

[Colleen]

[quote]Johnson predicted that would change. "New changes don't come very quickly. It comes from the people," she told Reuters. [/quote]
What ever happened to what God says?

These poor, misguided women.

[ForHimAlone]

For the sake of His sorrowful Passion, have mercy on us and on the whole world.

[Thy Geekdom Come]

[quote name='Colleen' date='Jun 14 2005, 10:52 AM'] What ever happened to what God says?

These poor, misguided women.
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We are god, Colleen. Welcome to the secular humanist heresy.

[Dudette]

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[Didacus]

[quote name='Raphael' date='Jun 14 2005, 09:42 AM']They aren't in a diocese.  No local bishop...that forces the pope to act.
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Is the pope to react to every heretic who falsely claims to act within the church's interest? He has better things to do. Should it not suffice that local priests and bishops proclaim the falsehood of the act and that this falsehood is understood? Let the details fall in the Holy Ftaher's 'to-do' list, to get dealt with when more important things are concluded.

[Noel's angel]

But the local priest or bishop CAN'T do anything, because their powers lie only within their diocese-these people are not in any diocese

[Didacus]

They can act by proclaiming the falseness of the act, i did not mean by intervention. i don't think even the pope will intervene, except afterwards in an excommunication

Local priests and bishops can act as far as letting the truth be known.

[Noel's angel]

sorry, i misread your post. Sure they can let the truth be known, but lots of people hear the truth and ignore it, the only way this can be stopped is by using these people as an example to others who may be thinking of doing such things