Fidei Defensor Posted June 21, 2005 Posted June 21, 2005 I would like to go sit at our cathedral all day and look at the beautiful windows.. as well as pray in the adoration chapel.
Aloysius Posted June 21, 2005 Posted June 21, 2005 [quote name='jezic' date='Jun 21 2005, 05:49 PM']why don't you like them? [right][snapback]618478[/snapback][/right] [/quote] the only ordinary minister of the Eucharist at Mass is a priest, and only insomuch as he represents the bishop. lay people distributing communion is an allowance in case of extraordinary circumstances where it would be impossible for the priest to distribute communion to everybody. Even in such case, it is first preferable to have a deacon do it and then after that it would be preferable to have an acolyte (in the US males 25yo and older are eligable to be permanent acolytes) as they have a real stable ministry. EMoHCs are not allowed to be used normatively (which is why they're called extraordinary)... i.e. if your parish uses them weekly and schedules them and has a sign in sheet like mine... it is illicit. an EMoHC does not hold a stable ministry, he is supposed to be commissioned by the bishop in case of extraordinary necessity. thus, if you can get a mass along in an hour and a half without EMoHCs, I don't see how you qualify.
MilesChristi Posted June 21, 2005 Posted June 21, 2005 [quote]why wouldn't you? I got an idea for making masses longer... get rid of all the extraordinary ministers of Holy Communion and have the priest distribute to everyone. In my humble opinion, if your mass would be less than an hour and a half doing this, you don't qualify under those extraordinary circumstances where you're allowed to use extraordinary ministers of Holy Communion to distribute Communion. waiting in that line will teach you patience... ever seen the cartoons of heaven's entry? those lines are long, you're gonna need practice. [/quote] YES! One of the wonderful things about communion rails, for example, is that the time you spend waiting allows for extra spiritual preparation prior to the actual moment of receiving our Eucharistic Lord.
Dudette Posted June 21, 2005 Posted June 21, 2005 [quote name='philothea' date='Jun 21 2005, 06:51 PM']The church in question had no air conditioning, and I get very sick if I sit in hot temperatures too long. Like I said, I'd love to sit in a church all day, every day, but some circumstances I can't handle. [right][snapback]618481[/snapback][/right] [/quote] Same here.
Aloysius Posted June 21, 2005 Posted June 21, 2005 [quote name='MilesChristi' date='Jun 21 2005, 06:04 PM']YES! One of the wonderful things about communion rails, for example, is that the time you spend waiting allows for extra spiritual preparation prior to the actual moment of receiving our Eucharistic Lord. [right][snapback]618488[/snapback][/right] [/quote] yes! that is definitely my favorite part of going to Tridentine Mass... the extra time you get to prepare waiting in line as if you were waiting to meet St. Peter and get into the gates of heaven, and then kneel and prepare, and then kneel and receive!
Norseman82 Posted June 21, 2005 Posted June 21, 2005 [quote name='Aloysius' date='Jun 21 2005, 04:41 PM']why wouldn't you? [/quote] Please answer his question.
Iacobus Posted June 21, 2005 Posted June 21, 2005 When I go to a Mass that runs longer then my normal Mass that I attend it can mess me up. Rarely do I have to hurry out to get somewhere, but knowing that Mass lasts about X minuites is nice. But going to a Mass that is longer then what I am used to isn't normally an issue, I mean, what cooler place is there to be? Well, I liked my parish better with the red shag carpeting, but Jesus stayed after they changed it.
son_of_angels Posted June 21, 2005 Posted June 21, 2005 I agree, if the Mass would be longer if only the priest gave communion. You could also integrate the beginning of Mass with a proper Gregorian Chant Liturgy of the Hours, such as Terce or the combined "Daytime Prayer." This is done fairly often in monasteries. Another option would be to have a long time of meditation and prayer after both the sermon and communion. Finally, I also think that after the Mass, or before it, you could have a period of silence, followed by a re-entry of the Priest and have an Adoration and Benediction Service (I have always thought this is where newer music belonged, instead of in the Mass proper) followed by the singing of a Gregorian Te Deum. Think about this. In the Mass, the priest could just give a short 10-20 minute homily on the readings, but in the Benediction Service that followed the Priest or a Deacon could give a walloping bible thumpin' sermon that really stirred up people to faith, etc. Then you break for a little while and come back for Solemn Vespers.
Philippe Posted June 22, 2005 Posted June 22, 2005 [quote name='Aloysius' date='Jun 21 2005, 02:41 PM']why wouldn't you? [/quote] honestly, i wouldnt mind so much but we would lose so many parishioners. Lots of people cant even take 1 hour out, if its 3 forget it
curtins Posted June 22, 2005 Posted June 22, 2005 the Pope's funeral was about 3 hours but thats with thousands of ppl receiving Communion and eastern rite things and all that stuff
iggy Posted June 22, 2005 Posted June 22, 2005 i have been to masses where there is a meditiation hymn after communtion. nothing too praise and worshipy, a lot of times, it is latin chant :wub: to give us more prayer time
Aloysius Posted June 22, 2005 Posted June 22, 2005 we should not operate out of fear of losing people. It is not the church's job to please the people, it is the people's job to please the church. I've said it before and I'll say it again, if anyone decides to stop attending mass because they don't like some liturgical aspect or it's too long, GOOD RIDDENS. That is their option.
photosynthesis Posted June 22, 2005 Posted June 22, 2005 I've been to some crazy long masses... Like once at my parish they decided to baptize 6 babies all at once. That took forever. And then there's always Easter Vigil... Any type of Mass with Cardinal Keeler has a tendency to go on and on because he gives long homilies.
the jessican Posted June 22, 2005 Posted June 22, 2005 Want a long (+3 hrs) Mass? check out an Orthodox church. I'm not entirely sure what all (the specific parts) are in it that aren't in the Roman Mass, but my friend (an Orthodox) was explaining it to me once. Apparently, they have all the parts we do, in the same sequence, but there are ceratin prayers added in between those parts. I'd have to research it or ask my friend again to give you more info than that. And I'm not entirely sure it goes for all parishes. but there you go anyway.
Aloysius Posted June 22, 2005 Posted June 22, 2005 first, you should go to an Eastern Rite Church because they're in communion with Rome. second, neither the Eastern Rite nor the Orthodox have a "mass" it's a Divine Liturgy third, they are cool... but if you're goin to fulfill your sunday obligation go to an Eastern Rite...
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