ironmonk Posted June 28, 2005 Posted June 28, 2005 Does this article need commentary on what this means and how close we are to what no one likes to talk about? Does this not stress the importance to get right with God and fight for the faith? Does this article send people into denial about the upcoming events to dismiss it and ignore all the other "signs of the times"? God Have Mercy and I thank Him that those days will be shortened. Prepare. God Bless, ironmonk [b]Boffins create zombie dogs[/b] [url="http://www.news.com.au/story/0,10117,15739502-13762,00.html"]http://www.news.com.au/story/0,10117,15739502-13762,00.html[/url] SCIENTISTS have created eerie zombie dogs, reanimating the canines after several hours of clinical death in attempts to develop suspended animation for humans. US scientists have succeeded in reviving the dogs after three hours of clinical death, paving the way for trials on humans within years. Pittsburgh's Safar Centre for Resuscitation Research has developed a technique in which subject's veins are drained of blood and filled with an ice-cold salt solution. The animals are considered scientifically dead, as they stop breathing and have no heartbeat or brain activity. But three hours later, their blood is replaced and the zombie dogs are brought back to life with an electric shock. Plans to test the technique on humans should be realised within a year, according to the Safar Centre. However rather than sending people to sleep for years, then bringing them back to life to benefit from medical advances, the boffins would be happy to keep people in this state for just a few hours, But even this should be enough to save lives such as battlefield casualties and victims of stabbings or gunshot wounds, who have suffered huge blood loss. During the procedure blood is replaced with saline solution at a few degrees above zero. The dogs' body temperature drops to only 7C, compared with the usual 37C, inducing a state of hypothermia before death. Although the animals are clinically dead, their tissues and organs are perfectly preserved. Damaged blood vessels and tissues can then be repaired via surgery. The dogs are brought back to life by returning the blood to their bodies,giving them 100 per cent oxygen and applying electric shocks to restart their hearts. Tests show they are perfectly normal, with no brain damage. "The results are stunning. I think in 10 years we will be able to prevent death in a certain segment of those using this technology," said one US battlefield doctor. [quote][img]http://network.news.com.au/image/0,10114,5021178,00.jpg[/img] Eerie ... boffins have brought dead dogs back to life, in the name of science. [/quote]
iggy Posted June 28, 2005 Posted June 28, 2005 this reminds me of a couple of my cousins who think they can bring flies back from the dead by burying them in salt.
Dreamweaver Posted June 28, 2005 Posted June 28, 2005 Hmm, poses many theological questions. At what point in time does the soul leave the body? Last Rites can be administered to a person who has recently passed away, since the exact time in which the soul leaves is not known. I find it curious that there is no brain/heart activity among the zombie dogs when under cooled saline treatment. I can't see how science can stop life, and then revive life. I suppose some wacko out there will claim that cooled saline explains Christ's death and ressurection....
iggy Posted June 28, 2005 Posted June 28, 2005 i am pretty sure to recieve last rights, the body must be warm
Didacus Posted June 28, 2005 Posted June 28, 2005 Science does paved lovely news roads to damnation doesn't it? How nice it is to have this beautiful new god amongst us.
Melchisedec Posted June 28, 2005 Posted June 28, 2005 [quote name='Didacus' date='Jun 28 2005, 09:56 AM']Science does paved lovely news roads to damnation doesn't it? How nice it is to have this beautiful new god amongst us. [right][snapback]626152[/snapback][/right] [/quote] For sure. Lets just declare war on this untrue religion that is science and do away with these computers were are using now, medicines that save the sick, communications equipment that connect us, and all the knowledge we have derived from this terrible religion. Science is ofcourse the work of the devil.
Didacus Posted June 28, 2005 Posted June 28, 2005 [quote name='Melchisedec' date='Jun 28 2005, 12:34 PM']For sure. Lets just declare war on this untrue religion that is science and do away with these computers were are using now, medicines that save the sick, communications equipment that connect us, and all the knowledge we have derived from this terrible religion. Science is ofcourse the work of the devil. [right][snapback]626254[/snapback][/right] [/quote] There is a between using science as the simple tool that it is and putting faith into a false religion. You like it? Hey, why don't you volunteer then? I hear their having trouble finding human subjects to try this on! [i]good luck with that[/i]
Guest T-Bone Posted June 28, 2005 Posted June 28, 2005 [quote name='Dreamweaver' date='Jun 27 2005, 10:27 PM']Hmm, poses many theological questions. At what point in time does the soul leave the body? Last Rites can be administered to a person who has recently passed away, since the exact time in which the soul leaves is not known. [right][snapback]625971[/snapback][/right] [/quote] Ever read Pet Sematary(sic) by Stephen King
Melchisedec Posted June 28, 2005 Posted June 28, 2005 [quote name='Didacus' date='Jun 28 2005, 12:57 PM']There is a between using science as the simple tool that it is and putting faith into a false religion. You like it? Hey, why don't you volunteer then? I hear their having trouble finding human subjects to try this on! [i]good luck with that[/i] [right][snapback]626288[/snapback][/right] [/quote] I really dont understand what you are trying to say. If you are implying that I condone the creation of zombie dogs , I do not. And please clarify on what putting faith into a false religion (science) means? I might have misinterepted your words to mean that sciences whole purpose is to lead the world to damnation and undermine God.
Didacus Posted June 28, 2005 Posted June 28, 2005 [quote name='Melchisedec' date='Jun 28 2005, 01:48 PM']I really dont understand what you are trying to say. If you are implying that I condone the creation of zombie dogs , I do not. And please clarify on what putting faith into a false religion (science) means? I might have misinterepted your words to mean that sciences whole purpose is to lead the world to damnation and undermine God. [right][snapback]626392[/snapback][/right] [/quote] Maybe I misinterpreted that you where in favor of zombie dogs... sorry about that. Surely you can tell the difference, in general, between using science as a tool and accepting it as a god? If you have 'faith' in science... then science is your god, congradulations... but if you see science as a tool that makes human life easier and has the potential to lessen suffering, but preserve fiath in the real God... then you've entered my domain... which is it with you?
morostheos Posted June 28, 2005 Posted June 28, 2005 yikes...that's weird. what i think is amusing about people who use science as a religion is that they steal all of the parts of the Catholic faith and give them new names, and think they've come up with something new, then they throw in new names for every heresy under the sun that already exists....bah This is why I'm going to study environmental science at a pontifical university - to blow these sillies out of the water!
MC Just Posted June 28, 2005 Posted June 28, 2005 [quote name='Melchisedec' date='Jun 28 2005, 12:34 PM']For sure. Lets just declare war on this untrue religion that is science and do away with these computers were are using now, medicines that save the sick, communications equipment that connect us, and all the knowledge we have derived from this terrible religion. Science is ofcourse the work of the devil. [right][snapback]626254[/snapback][/right] [/quote] wow!!! You are seeing the light!!! Yay, when are you converting?
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