Brother Adam Posted July 7, 2005 Share Posted July 7, 2005 We need a good debate again. All of these debates are just....boring...on here right now. So St. Paul said "Who ever confesses with his lips that Jesus is Lord will be saved". Since St. Paul says "Will" why should I believe that someone can lose their salvation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaime Posted July 7, 2005 Share Posted July 7, 2005 [quote]We need a good debate again. All of these debates are just....boring...on here right now. [/quote] This from the guy who wanted to debate about his cat! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Didacus Posted July 7, 2005 Share Posted July 7, 2005 [quote name='Brother Adam' date='Jul 7 2005, 09:17 AM']We need a good debate again. All of these debates are just....boring...on here right now. So St. Paul said "Who ever confesses with his lips that Jesus is Lord will be saved". Since St. Paul says "Will" why should I believe that someone can lose their salvation? [right][snapback]634185[/snapback][/right] [/quote] Because Jesus called for anyone who follows Him to carry their cross, and thus it does not suffice to simply speak a few words to be saved. In your citation, I believe you might misunderstand the implications of someone who genuinely 'confesses with his lips'. The implications are of course that somone who genuiely does so will carry his/her cross and live the word of gospel throughout their lives, and it is through this continued dedication that one earns salvation. Does the bible not teach that the word of the Lord is alive? It this not the the understanding of the teachings in itself is insufficient for salvation, since these teachings must be lived, they must be alive within our spirit and thus affect every moment of every day of our lives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Adam Posted July 7, 2005 Author Share Posted July 7, 2005 So you must be saying then that St. Paul is wrong. Or even if a person did make this 'genuine' confession (which you seem to be equating with baptism and santification), the terminology does say 'will' as in it will happen and 'nothing can take us away from Christ' for he 'never loses one of his own' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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