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Mrs. Bro. Adam
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My husband, Brother Adam, has gone insane. Can you prove otherwise?

Thy Geekdom Come
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I wouldn't want to. I've thought it all along.

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Well, it depends on whether his insanity has moved across time or space by some philosphical or mathematical thing I can't figure out.


:crazy:

Brother Adam
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I am most certianly insane. I have become a bonified member of an international group that follows a 2000 year old man who claims to have risen the dead (himself included) and whos members have been known to have been thrown in front of lions, torn to shreds, boiled alive, chopped to pieces, set on fire, shot at, and so forth. And I joined based on simple faith. I am most definitely insane.

Mrs. Bro. Adam
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Now who can argue with that?!


:wacko:

Thy Geekdom Come
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[quote name='Brother Adam' date='Jul 7 2005, 11:21 AM']I am most certianly insane. I have become a bonified member of an international group that follows a 2000 year old man who claims to have risen the dead (himself included) and whos members have been known to have been thrown in front of lions, torn to shreds, boiled alive, chopped to pieces, set on fire, shot at, and so forth. And I joined based on simple faith. I am most definitely insane.
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I'm more insane. I committed my life to a cause without even seeing it first hand. :P

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Hmm, I thought it was actually the best rational and common sense answer, rather than the most insane. It's the only religion that seems to perfectly fit with philosophy. :)

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lol well that means I'm insane too lol

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It depends on your definition of insane. According to GK Chesterton, you'd be one of the people who is actually sane. According to the world, you'd be insane.

Thy Geekdom Come
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[quote name='StColette' date='Jul 7 2005, 11:26 AM']lol well that means I'm insane too lol
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Glad I have someone to be insane with. :blush:

cmotherofpirl
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Normal is overrated and boring :)

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[quote name='Raphael' date='Jul 7 2005, 10:30 AM']Glad I have someone to be insane with. :blush:
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You must have lost your mind. You ended your sentence with a preposition! :o :P

Brother Adam
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A Preposition is a horrible thing to end a sentence with.

franciscanheart
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[quote name='Raphael' date='Jul 7 2005, 10:30 AM']Glad I have someone to be insane with. :blush:
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:bugeyes: i think she was referring to bro adam's post.

franciscanheart
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the world thinks im losing touch with reality but thats okay because i like the idea of Heaven ^_^

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[quote name='Brother Adam' date='Jul 7 2005, 10:21 AM']I am most certianly insane. I have become a bonified member of an international group that follows a 2000 year old man who claims to have risen the dead (himself included) and whos members have been known to have been thrown in front of lions, torn to shreds, boiled alive, chopped to pieces, set on fire, shot at, and so forth. And I joined based on simple faith. I am most definitely insane.
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RESPONSE:

I don't know about you sanity, but you are in error as to fact (at least regarding the writings of the New Testament.) Jesus did not claim that he rose from the dead, nor does Peter state that Jesus did. Jesus was said to have been raised by God:

Acts 2: 24 "But God raised him up, having freed him from death,* because it was impossible for him to be held in its power."

And as for the martyr arguments, do the actions of the fundamentalist suicide bombers prove the truth of their religious beliefs? Or does that only apply to Christians? ;)

franciscanheart
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wait then im confused.... what happened in that locked room?

Brother Adam
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I really don't care for 'verse slinging' but okay.

I am the Living One; I was dead, and behold I am alive for ever and ever! And I hold the keys of death and Hades. Rev 1:8

"I tell you the truth," Jesus answered, "before Abraham was born, I am!" John 8:58

"the Father, the Word and the Holy Spirit, and these three are one" 1 John 5:8

Jesus is God.

"But God raised him from the dead, freeing him from the agony of death, because it was impossible for death to keep its hold on him." Acts 2:24

Death had no power over the Christ.

The actions of suicide bombers, and those martyrs of ancient times are completely seperate issues. I doubt the children who were thrown in with the lions in Rome were murdering others.

Even you LittleLes can convert and be saved.

Salvation is found in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given to men by which we must be saved. Acts 4:12

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[quote name='LittleLes' date='Jul 7 2005, 01:03 PM']RESPONSE:

I don't know about you sanity, but you are in error as to fact (at least regarding the writings of the New Testament.) Jesus did not claim that he rose from the dead, nor does Peter state that Jesus did. Jesus was said to have been  raised by God:

Acts 2: 24 "But God raised him up, having freed him from death,* because it was impossible for him to be held in its power."

And as for the martyr arguments, do the actions of the fundamentalist suicide bombers prove the truth of their religious beliefs?  Or does that only apply to Christians?  ;)
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This has all been dealt with and refuted in the [url="http://www.phatmass.com/phorum/index.php?showtopic=33775&st=25"]Divinity of Christ thread[/url].

No need to repeat it again here. Get a life!

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[quote name='Brother Adam' date='Jul 7 2005, 01:25 PM']I really don't care for 'verse slinging' but okay.

I am the Living One; I was dead, and behold I am alive for ever and ever! And I hold the keys of death and Hades. Rev 1:8

"I tell you the truth," Jesus answered, "before Abraham was born, I am!" John 8:58

"the Father, the Word and the Holy Spirit, and these three are one" 1 John 5:8

Jesus is God.

"But God raised him from the dead, freeing him from the agony of death, because it was impossible for death to keep its hold on him." Acts 2:24

Death had no power over the Christ.

The actions of suicide bombers, and those martyrs of ancient times are completely seperate issues. I doubt the children who were thrown in with the lions in Rome were murdering others.

Even you LittleLes can convert and be saved.

Salvation is found in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given to men by which we must be saved. Acts 4:12
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RESPONSE:

(1) You have not cited any verse in which Jesus claims to have risen from the dead under his own power. Do you have any more? ;)

(2) Your quote from 1 John 5:8 is a 6th century interpolation entered from the margin of an Old Latin manuscript. It should read: " The Spirit, the water, and the blood, and the three are of one accord." Check out the New American Bible on the Vatican website.

(3) And as you quoted:"But God raised him from the dead, freeing him from the agony of death, because it was impossible for death to keep its hold on him." Acts 2:24 Please note that God is the actor: Jesus is the one acted upon, just like Lazarus.

(4) The suicide bombers go to their death believing that they will enter a better place. The Christians did the same thing. These are not separate issues. And I doubt very much that children made a decision to be martyred if they were "thrown to the lions."

But killing to gain entry into paradise is not only practiced by the suicide bombers. It was a Crusader belief as well:

"Popes Gregory VII and Urban II changed that. They said that an act of warfare against the infidel, i.e. the Muslims, was in itself an act of penance, and if a Christian were to lose his life so doing, he would go straight to heaven." Same story with the fundamentalists.

(5)I've already "converted" and hopefully am "saved." I just am not all that gullible. :D

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