Apotheoun Posted July 18, 2005 Posted July 18, 2005 [quote name='Laudate_Dominum' date='Jul 18 2005, 04:54 PM']I think they added metachlorians not to give star wars a materialist metaphysics, but probably just to explain how they could measure the force in a person since this was a crucial part of the story of Anakin Skywalker. I doubt Lucas gave it that much thought. A lot of things in the movie actually seemed like Star Trek rip offs. [right][snapback]648678[/snapback][/right] [/quote] They "measured" the force in the original movies too, but not with instruments. This was a bad move on Lucas' part, because it really made the force seem less mysterious. If a thing can be measured with man made instruments then it can be known and quantified. It really was a let down. It would be like if I said, "I can now measure the divine energy."
reelguy227 Posted July 19, 2005 Posted July 19, 2005 The Phantom Menace is the most mistinerpreted Star WArs movie there is ,so there was some bad acting by a little boy ,so what . Its a great Star Wars movie,only true Star Wars fans see its glory and where its going in the saga. It starts it off ,its the beginning ,whatever George Lucas envisions is what star wars is ,he created it and if he wants Jar Jar in it ,he can do whatever he darn well pleases . Whatever he says is Star Wars ,is Star Wars. No offense ,by the way.
Apotheoun Posted July 19, 2005 Posted July 19, 2005 [quote name='reelguy227' date='Jul 18 2005, 05:49 PM']The Phantom Menace is the most mistinerpreted Star WArs movie there is ,so there was some bad acting by a little boy ,so what . Its a great Star Wars movie,only true Star Wars fans see its glory and where its going in the saga. It starts it off ,its the beginning ,whatever George Lucas envisions is what star wars is ,he created it and if he wants Jar Jar in it ,he can do whatever he darn well pleases . Whatever he says is Star Wars ,is Star Wars. No offense ,by the way. [right][snapback]648776[/snapback][/right] [/quote] True enough, and no matter what he says, it was a bad Star Wars movie.
Apotheoun Posted July 19, 2005 Posted July 19, 2005 I just finished watching the movie "Volcano" on FX, and I must admit, that movie makes Phantom Menace look good.
Socrates Posted July 19, 2005 Posted July 19, 2005 [quote name='Apotheoun' date='Jul 18 2005, 07:57 PM']I just finished watching the movie "Volcano" on FX, and I must admit, that movie makes Phantom Menace look good. [right][snapback]648786[/snapback][/right] [/quote] That must be a bad movie!
Apotheoun Posted July 19, 2005 Posted July 19, 2005 [quote name='Socrates' date='Jul 18 2005, 06:16 PM']That must be a bad movie! [right][snapback]648813[/snapback][/right] [/quote] [i]Bad[/i] is only one adjective that could be used in order to describe the movie "Volcano."
White Knight Posted July 19, 2005 Author Posted July 19, 2005 Wow... I live this thread, expecting the ovbious and then a huge boom takes toll.. lol.
Laudate_Dominum Posted July 19, 2005 Posted July 19, 2005 I have yet to see Volcano, but to return to the metachlorians: I guess I'm just trying to look at the whole thing in the best possible light. But of course I wish George would not have added that. It's lame. There I said it. hehe
Laudate_Dominum Posted July 19, 2005 Posted July 19, 2005 I wanna copy you Apotheoun.. the Church scholars should match. hehehe
White Knight Posted July 19, 2005 Author Posted July 19, 2005 Valcano is better than Dantas Peek. other unrealistic valcano film.
zunshynn Posted July 19, 2005 Posted July 19, 2005 Episode 3! gag me! the story was so bland! Just a bunch of petty little saber battles. You could watch the last 20 minutes of that movie and it would wrap everything together.
Laudate_Dominum Posted July 19, 2005 Posted July 19, 2005 [quote name='zunshynn' date='Jul 19 2005, 12:15 AM']Episode 3! gag me! the story was so bland! Just a bunch of petty little saber battles. You could watch the last 20 minutes of that movie and it would wrap everything together. [right][snapback]649273[/snapback][/right] [/quote] I liked it for some reason... can't explain it.
Apotheoun Posted July 19, 2005 Posted July 19, 2005 [quote name='White Knight' date='Jul 18 2005, 10:03 PM']Valcano is better than Dantas Peek. other unrealistic valcano film. [right][snapback]649258[/snapback][/right] [/quote] Actually I liked "Dante's Peak" better, but mainly because of the beautiful scenery. Plus I can't stand Anne Heche.
Apotheoun Posted July 19, 2005 Posted July 19, 2005 [quote name='zunshynn' date='Jul 18 2005, 10:15 PM']Episode 3! gag me! the story was so bland! Just a bunch of petty little saber battles. You could watch the last 20 minutes of that movie and it would wrap everything together. [right][snapback]649273[/snapback][/right] [/quote] All three of the newer Star Wars movies are uneven in their pacing. They have good parts and bad parts. But of the three new films the "Revenge of the Sith" was the best, and the most like the original Star Wars movies. I also liked parts of "Attack of the Clones." But I have to say this, George Lucas cannot write dialogue., and the absolute worst scenes in the last two films were the "love" scenes between Anakin and Padme. Both Natalie Portman and Hayden Christensen are good actors (well pretty good), and the fact that their scenes together come off as stiff and dull, is a consequence of the poor dialogue and direction. George should have hired someone else to write the scripts and direct the movies, and he should has remained in the background as the man with the "vision."
Apotheoun Posted July 19, 2005 Posted July 19, 2005 [quote name='Laudate_Dominum' date='Jul 18 2005, 09:54 PM']I wanna copy you Apotheoun.. the Church scholars should match. hehehe [right][snapback]649247[/snapback][/right] [/quote] No you don't want to copy me, because then you'd have to leave the Roman Rite, and become a Byzantine Catholic and a Palamite theologian.
Laudate_Dominum Posted July 19, 2005 Posted July 19, 2005 I basically agree. I've heard Lucas admit that he makes effect movies so I imagine he's aware of his inability to bring the best out of actors. You also have to consider that almost all of the scenes were shot with blue screens. I heard there was not a single shot in all of 'attack of the clones' that didn't involve blue screens. I can't imagine being thrust into random scenario after random scenerio where you are surrounded by blue and expect to act. And while Lucas did the rough drafts himself, I know some other fellows were involved in developing the scripts. Also, I think one of the reasons empire is the best star wars movie over all is because Lucas didn't direct it.
Laudate_Dominum Posted July 19, 2005 Posted July 19, 2005 [quote name='Apotheoun' date='Jul 19 2005, 07:50 AM']No you don't want to copy me, because then you'd have to leave the Roman Rite, and become a Byzantine Catholic and a Palamite theologian. [right][snapback]649500[/snapback][/right] [/quote] I was going to get a nice St. Bonaventure avatar and write "The Bonaventurian Theologian of Phatmass", but I changed my mind. Couldn't find a picture that I ilked, and the writing below seems too long.
Apotheoun Posted July 19, 2005 Posted July 19, 2005 [quote name='Laudate_Dominum' date='Jul 19 2005, 05:54 AM']I was going to get a nice St. Bonaventure avatar and write "The Bonaventurian Theologian of Phatmass", but I changed my mind. Couldn't find a picture that I ilked, and the writing below seems too long. [right][snapback]649504[/snapback][/right] [/quote] The difference between Bonaventure's position in the West and Palamas' position in the East, is that the doctrine of grace set forth by Palamas (and which corresponds to the Maximian position as well), is a doctrine in the East, while Bonaventure's views are merely the opinions of a particular school of thought in the West. Thus, the distinction between the divine essence and the uncreated divine energies isn't merely an opinion in Eastern theology; instead, it is intimately bound up with the doctrine of God and [i]theosis[/i], and as such it cannot be denied.
Paladin D Posted July 19, 2005 Posted July 19, 2005 Every scene in ROTS was filmed indoors, except for Tatooine (which was actually recorded during the AOTC production). Revenge of the Sith is my favorite out of the three, but I still like the other two to an extent. Each film had it's strong points. The love scenes could've been done better, but you also have to think of it like this: do two teenagers/young adults in real life actually speak romantically in elaborate language to each other, everyday?
Apotheoun Posted July 19, 2005 Posted July 19, 2005 [quote name='Paladin D' date='Jul 19 2005, 06:44 AM'][. . .] The love scenes could've been done better, but you also have to think of it like this: do two teenagers/young adults in real life actually speak romantically in elaborate language to each other, everyday? [right][snapback]649565[/snapback][/right] [/quote] Well, I'm not familiar with how young people a long time ago, and in a galaxy far far a way, spoke romantically to each other, but if the dialogue written by George Lucas is a true representation of how things happened in that galaxy, one can only have great pity for young lovers there.
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