homeschoolmom Posted July 21, 2005 Share Posted July 21, 2005 What did you do to your avatar? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aloysius Posted July 21, 2005 Author Share Posted July 21, 2005 added some stuff on the side. if it's a stretched out chi-rho symbol you need to refresh the page (because your comp is just showing you the pic it normally sees, refreshing will make it ask for the new image) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homeschoolmom Posted July 21, 2005 Share Posted July 21, 2005 Bam! Thanx. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oik Posted July 21, 2005 Share Posted July 21, 2005 I really do like both versions. I understand the use of the tiara, and it's non-use. The point has been made that using the tiara would express a deeper unity with our Orthodox breathern, and no doubt that this would be the case (for they wear crowns). I thinki the introduction of the pallium and the bishop's mitre instead of the tiara express Pope Benedict's approach to visually put faith into the Bishop's of the church. It has been speculated that he is trying to strengthen the role of the Bishop in thier immediate jurisdictions and lessen the role (albeit mostly a percieved though not realistically present) "activity" of the Pope into the diocese. I think this is also, in a way to gain the confidence of the Orthodox(and Eastern catholics), who put much more emphasis on thier Bishops/Patriarch's than we do on our's (in the West/Latin Rite). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aloysius Posted July 21, 2005 Author Share Posted July 21, 2005 a compromise could be the earlier form of the tiara: [img]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/d/de/Benedictxvi-arms-camelaucum.jpg/180px-Benedictxvi-arms-camelaucum.jpg[/img] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oik Posted July 21, 2005 Share Posted July 21, 2005 That one is really cool Al! The bishop's mitre that Pope Benedict has now see to be similar to the one you posted... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mariology21 Posted July 21, 2005 Share Posted July 21, 2005 [quote name='kateri05' date='Jul 21 2005, 01:01 AM']wait they look all the same to me... there's a difference? [right][snapback]652099[/snapback][/right] [/quote] I'm glad I'm not the only one sitting here thinking this!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noel's angel Posted July 21, 2005 Share Posted July 21, 2005 one has a bishop's mitre on the top instead of the traditional tiara-that's the difference Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noel's angel Posted July 21, 2005 Share Posted July 21, 2005 look at the mitre though-it retains the three tiers that are also shown in the other one-just an observation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aloysius Posted July 21, 2005 Author Share Posted July 21, 2005 yeah I already explained the diff. to Kateri anyway, the older version of the Tiara is closer looking to the miter, which is why it'd be a compromise, but it's still got more of the same basic shape as the tiara and also the gold parts make it still somewhat of a crown. [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coat_of_arms_of_Pope_Benedict_XVI#Controversy"]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coat_of_arms_...XVI#Controversy[/url] apparently there is a possibility that the official coat of arms for history's sake still has the tiara, but that the mitre is a personal preference of benedict not for the most official of documents... interesting... time will tell. but apparently there have already been documents out that include the tiara Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noel's angel Posted July 21, 2005 Share Posted July 21, 2005 interesting...i guess we'll just have to wait and see Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qfnol31 Posted July 21, 2005 Share Posted July 21, 2005 (edited) I like the triregno (tiara). I was not surprised that he didn't wear it (maybe saddened, but I understood), but I wouldn't have been surprised had he worn it either. I woulda be delighted though. Also, he uses the royal "we" and actually uses the triregno at the end of some documents. Edited July 21, 2005 by qfnol31 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aloysius Posted July 21, 2005 Author Share Posted July 21, 2005 woah, he uses the royal we? that's awesome. yeah, I don't think anyone expected him to wear the tiara. but dropping it from the coat of arms was unexpected and I'm glad to see that that may not be the final official call... just some loopy artist innovation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qfnol31 Posted July 21, 2005 Share Posted July 21, 2005 [url="http://www.vatican.va/holy_father/benedict_xvi/messages/pont-messages/2005/documents/hf_ben-xvi_mes_20050420_missa-pro-ecclesia_lt.html"]http://www.vatican.va/holy_father/benedict...cclesia_lt.html[/url] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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