DannyBoy Posted July 22, 2005 Posted July 22, 2005 (edited) I guess my topic and description say it all...I mean, he seems to have a bit of influence (withdrawn for Brother Adam: cult following)? Worthwhile to look into? Lets chat phatmassers. Edited July 22, 2005 by DannyBoy
Brother Adam Posted July 22, 2005 Posted July 22, 2005 Could you offer some kind of proof of this 'cult following'?
DannyBoy Posted July 22, 2005 Author Posted July 22, 2005 (edited) I meant it in the sense that there are an awful lot of people, especially in the (tri-state OH, WV, PA region of the OV) that know of his work and teachings via the lecture circuit. I am curious myself...can you help me out on this subject? Edited July 22, 2005 by DannyBoy
inDEED Posted July 22, 2005 Posted July 22, 2005 Actually, just a sidenote (don't mean to hijack your thread)... His testimony REALLY did a LOT in aiding in the conversion of my wife to the Catholic faith... His experience with seeing the Eucharist raised during Mass...his feelings mirrored my wife's..."My Lord and my God"...
homeschoolmom Posted July 22, 2005 Posted July 22, 2005 That's interesting, because I saw his conversion story on video and it actually was a stumbling block to me and HSD for a while... It seemed to me that he was mocking Protestants somewhat (and since his audience was Catholic, they ate it up)... I like his writing better.
DannyBoy Posted July 22, 2005 Author Posted July 22, 2005 [quote name='inDEED' date='Jul 22 2005, 12:20 PM']Actually, just a sidenote (don't mean to hijack your thread)... His testimony REALLY did a LOT in aiding in the conversion of my wife to the Catholic faith... His experience with seeing the Eucharist raised during Mass...his feelings mirrored my wife's..."My Lord and my God"... [right][snapback]654189[/snapback][/right] [/quote] I am happy to learn of your endeavors. A man who can affect the coversion of another to our Faith is truly well accepted in my book. Hijack all you want...I truly know nothing of him other than he is a man of influence. I guess this is more for me to learn from you than for me to testify...
Brother Adam Posted July 22, 2005 Posted July 22, 2005 So if Augustine becomes popular in the so called "area" you are refering to that means he has a cult following? Is this necessarily a bad thing? What are you trying to get at?
thessalonian Posted July 22, 2005 Posted July 22, 2005 His testimony tape was very instrumental in getting my wife to convert to the Catholic faith from being a baptist. Especially his coming to see the Eucharist for what it was. That was what got my wife when we were first dating. I quoted John 6 and she had no answer. I remember after my sister sent my wife the scott hahn tape, she told me she didn't like his voice. Then later after she had converted she told me that wasn't really the problem . The problem was that she knew the Catholic Church was Christ's Church and that the Eucharist was for real and it made her angry. She felt she had been lied to all those years. I have most of Hahn's books and would recommend any of them. Especially "Lord Have Mercy" and far and above that is "The Lamb's Supper". That book had a profound impact on me like no other book I have read and I will never look at the Mass the same way or be bored being there. It's an incredible piece of insights. That said, I wouldn't consider myself or my wife a Scott Hahn groupie. I admire his insights however. He was the catalyst for the great infusion of Protestants who knew their Bible in to the Church. Many of them mention his influence on them in their conversion to Catholicism. Ken Hensley, Steve Ray, Marcus Grodie, Jerry Mattics, and many others. Grodie now has a ministry that has helped over 800 pastors in to the Catholic Church.
DannyBoy Posted July 22, 2005 Author Posted July 22, 2005 [quote name='homeschoolmom' date='Jul 22 2005, 12:30 PM']That's interesting, because I saw his conversion story on video and it actually was a stumbling block to me and HSD for a while... It seemed to me that he was mocking Protestants somewhat (and since his audience was Catholic, they ate it up)... I like his writing better. [right][snapback]654198[/snapback][/right] [/quote] I have heard that opinion of him as well.
Brother Adam Posted July 22, 2005 Posted July 22, 2005 Why not pick up one of his books from the library and learn for yourself?
DannyBoy Posted July 22, 2005 Author Posted July 22, 2005 [quote name='Brother Adam' date='Jul 22 2005, 12:33 PM']Why not pick up one of his books from the library and learn for yourself? [right][snapback]654205[/snapback][/right] [/quote] Seems as if I have struck a nerve with you. I will pray for your temper this Friday. Perhaps that would be a good idea.
homeschoolmom Posted July 22, 2005 Posted July 22, 2005 [quote name='Brother Adam' date='Jul 22 2005, 10:32 AM']What are you trying to get at? [right][snapback]654202[/snapback][/right] [/quote] I think it's more like people wanting to get to see him and be near him or speak to him.
Brother Adam Posted July 22, 2005 Posted July 22, 2005 [quote name='DannyBoy' date='Jul 22 2005, 11:35 AM']Seems as if I have struck a nerve with you. I will pray for your temper this Friday. Perhaps that would be a good idea. [right][snapback]654209[/snapback][/right] [/quote]
DannyBoy Posted July 22, 2005 Author Posted July 22, 2005 [quote name='Brother Adam' date='Jul 22 2005, 12:41 PM'] [right][snapback]654215[/snapback][/right] [/quote] You seemed to be a bit haughty in your responses. I'm merely somone looking for answers...I took your last response...about my heading to the library to be durogatory...should I be a bit out of line I appologize. Consider me humbled. Those of us "stateys" who had not the resources to attend Catholic colleges or U's really need people like you to shed light onto our thoughts...short of my interupting my thesis work, reading a Hahn book may be beneficial. There just isn't enough time in the day. For the counsel I thank you.
Brother Adam Posted July 22, 2005 Posted July 22, 2005 calling it a 'cult following' is usually a tipoff that someone has a natural inclination not to like Dr. Hahn's work or for some odd reason thinks that becuase his works are popular something is wrong. Dr. Hahn's works comprise of about 1% of the books on Catholicism I've read, but they have been very good and very orthodox. They certianly put the Catholic faith in a way that I, when I was a Protestant, could understand and accept. The works certianly played a part in my own conversion in that they helped to provide answers I was looking for, and I would suggest his books to other Protestants who consider looking into the Catholic faith. I tend to find Karl Keatings work "Fundamentalism and Catholicism" more in the way of books that could offend Protestants than Hahn's work, but I know how his could upset others too. Of all the books I would start someone off with though, it would probably be "Catholic and Christian" by Schreck.
Apotheoun Posted July 22, 2005 Posted July 22, 2005 Everyone is free to have their own opinions about Dr. Hahn's writings and tapes, just as they are free to hold their own opinions about the writings of Rahner, Scheeben, Peter Kreeft, et al.; that being said, no one should take offense at the opinions of others.
DannyBoy Posted July 22, 2005 Author Posted July 22, 2005 [quote name='Brother Adam' date='Jul 22 2005, 12:54 PM']calling it a 'cult following' is usually a tipoff that someone has a natural inclination not to like Dr. Hahn's work or for some odd reason thinks that becuase his works are popular something is wrong. Dr. Hahn's works comprise of about 1% of the books on Catholicism I've read, but they have been very good and very orthodox. They certianly put the Catholic faith in a way that I, when I was a Protestant, could understand and accept. The works certianly played a part in my own conversion in that they helped to provide answers I was looking for, and I would suggest his books to other Protestants who consider looking into the Catholic faith. I tend to find Karl Keatings work "Fundamentalism and Catholicism" more in the way of books that could offend Protestants than Hahn's work, but I know how his could upset others too. Of all the books I would start someone off with though, it would probably be "Catholic and Christian" by Schreck. [right][snapback]654239[/snapback][/right] [/quote] Good to know Brother Adam. I am familiar with the Keating book and recently recieved Dr. Schreck's History of the Catholic Church as a gift. Currently I find myself delving into the writings of St. Josemaria and St. Francis de Sales. Nevertheless, I appreciate your concern. Though I, unlike you am not a theology student, I have studied my fair share. There are just so many great opportunities...how can one without the guidance of the classroom instructor function...I'll let ya know when I figure it out. Pray for me.
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