scardella Posted August 7, 2005 Posted August 7, 2005 [quote name='cmotherofpirl' date='Aug 6 2005, 01:51 PM']Define old and crusty. : My dear old neighbor were still "relating" in their 80's. Did you ever hear the saying about dying in bed at 99 with a smile on your face?? [right][snapback]675192[/snapback][/right] [/quote] No, thankfully... and I don't want to know how you know they were still "relating" in their 80's. Call me naïve, but I thought once you got to a certain age, stuff just stopped working, hence, old and crusty.
Laudate_Dominum Posted August 7, 2005 Author Posted August 7, 2005 yeah.. that's uh.. a little too private for me.. I'd rather be blissfully ignorant. *shivers* eerrg
cmotherofpirl Posted August 7, 2005 Posted August 7, 2005 After 60 years of marriage they were still very much in love, and quite pleased with themselves. :
Laudate_Dominum Posted August 7, 2005 Author Posted August 7, 2005 [sarcastic enthusiasm] -- Enough about 90 year olds doing it
Guest Eremite Posted August 7, 2005 Posted August 7, 2005 [quote]The procreative part of marriage just doesn't seem to be fulfilled if you're old and crusty, though[/quote] The procreative dimension is not limited solely to the ability to procreate. Procreation is the primary END, but not the MEANING, of the conjugal union. An elderly couple still fulfills the essential ends of the marital act by expressing themselves in a self giving way, without hindering the expression of the flesh (eg, with a prophylactic). Although mutual abstinence is certainly a possibility, the conjugal act does not lose its meaning in old age. It is, in the natural order, the supreme act of love between two people.
IcePrincessKRS Posted August 7, 2005 Posted August 7, 2005 [quote name='cmotherofpirl' date='Aug 5 2005, 06:54 PM']God does not ask us to live in the past, but the here and now. It will never be the same as your first love, but then you are not the same person as you were then either. If He sends a new love your way, why would you refuse a gift? I never want to be too old to fall in love [right][snapback]674140[/snapback][/right] [/quote] Cmom is right. Even though at this point I can't see myself ever falling in love with someone else, if Matt died I still wouldn't rule it out altogether. As much as the idea of "old crusty people doing it" may be creepy or gross to us young folks, its still a beautiful testament of their love for one another. Though it wouldn't be procreative anymore (except by some miracle) the unitive aspect is never something to be looked down on or brushed aside. "They're old and they can't have kids anymore so they should just stop 'doing it'" is a ridiculous argument.
IcePrincessKRS Posted August 7, 2005 Posted August 7, 2005 [quote name='Eremite' date='Aug 7 2005, 07:17 PM']The procreative dimension is not limited solely to the ability to procreate. Procreation is the primary END, but not the MEANING, of the conjugal union. An elderly couple still fulfills the essential ends of the marital act by expressing themselves in a self giving way, without hindering the expression of the flesh (eg, with a prophylactic). Although mutual abstinence is certainly a possibility, the conjugal act does not lose its meaning in old age. It is, in the natural order, the supreme act of love between two people. [right][snapback]676296[/snapback][/right] [/quote] hehe You beat me to it...
Laudate_Dominum Posted August 7, 2005 Author Posted August 7, 2005 Wise words Katie.. hrmm.. but it's something I'd rather not have to think about until I get there. hehee.. j/k
IcePrincessKRS Posted August 7, 2005 Posted August 7, 2005 Oh, I understand not wanting to think about it. lol Being young its kind of a foreign concept--my comments weren't directed at you specifically, I just put them out there as a general thought. But like I said, just because someone is old it doesn't mean that intercourse should be forbidden them.
cmotherofpirl Posted August 8, 2005 Posted August 8, 2005 (edited) How old was Sara in the OT? Just because your body is aging doesn't mean you lose your capacity or desire to have marital relations. While the idea may seem gross to young people, I can assure you the wrinkly alien population is still very much alive and well. Edited August 8, 2005 by cmotherofpirl
Laudate_Dominum Posted August 8, 2005 Author Posted August 8, 2005 "How old was Sara in the OT?" A: Sara was soooo old, that every time she.... harhar
Luthien Posted August 8, 2005 Posted August 8, 2005 I like the thought that I'll still be loving my husband in all aspects of marriage well into my 80's. I don't see a problem. Societies fascination with youth and beauty makes the thought of two elderly making love something to think of as gross. But this is so untrue! Its just as beautiful, if not more beautiful than it was when they were first married. Marriages grow and flourish through the years. I know my Mom and Dad wouldn't go back to the first years of marriage for anything, because they have grown closer than ever throughout the years. I may not be as young and beautiful as I am now(no Im not flattering myself just makin' a point ) when Im 73 years old, but I highly doubt, seeing as this is me, that my love will fade at all for the man I married. I just realized this has little to do with the topic, but I think it needs to be said that people can still share marital bliss well into old age. And its not gross.
cmotherofpirl Posted August 8, 2005 Posted August 8, 2005 [quote name='Luthien' date='Aug 8 2005, 11:09 AM']I like the thought that I'll still be loving my husband in all aspects of marriage well into my 80's. I don't see a problem. Societies fascination with youth and beauty makes the thought of two elderly making love something to think of as gross. But this is so untrue! Its just as beautiful, if not more beautiful than it was when they were first married. Marriages grow and flourish through the years. I know my Mom and Dad wouldn't go back to the first years of marriage for anything, because they have grown closer than ever throughout the years. I may not be as young and beautiful as I am now(no Im not flattering myself just makin' a point ) when Im 73 years old, but I highly doubt, seeing as this is me, that my love will fade at all for the man I married. I just realized this has little to do with the topic, but I think it needs to be said that people can still share marital bliss well into old age. And its not gross. [right][snapback]676916[/snapback][/right] [/quote] [color=blue]WERD [/color]
Laudate_Dominum Posted August 8, 2005 Author Posted August 8, 2005 [quote name='Luthien' date='Aug 8 2005, 10:09 AM']I like the thought that I'll still be loving my husband in all aspects of marriage well into my 80's. I don't see a problem. Societies fascination with youth and beauty makes the thought of two elderly making love something to think of as gross. But this is so untrue! Its just as beautiful, if not more beautiful than it was when they were first married. Marriages grow and flourish through the years. I know my Mom and Dad wouldn't go back to the first years of marriage for anything, because they have grown closer than ever throughout the years. I may not be as young and beautiful as I am now(no Im not flattering myself just makin' a point ) when Im 73 years old, but I highly doubt, seeing as this is me, that my love will fade at all for the man I married. I just realized this has little to do with the topic, but I think it needs to be said that people can still share marital bliss well into old age. And its not gross. [right][snapback]676916[/snapback][/right] [/quote] You rock! :
Sojourner Posted August 15, 2005 Posted August 15, 2005 I know this topic hasn't been active for a few days, but for what it's worth ... I think the only way I'd consider getting remarried would be if I had small children and needed a man around the house. I have a good friend who's a single mom, and I just wouldn't want that for my children if there was some good and honorable way of avoiding that. Otherwise, I'm not afraid of being alone into old age. I'm nearing 30 and single now, and doing just fine, so I know that if I outlive my husband I'll do fine too. God has given me a vibrant, loving community now, and I trust that he'll continue to meet my needs into the future. I just know myself well enough to know that if I end up finding one guy that can put up with me and I with him, I'll be blessed beyond all measure. I don't see myself falling in love and marrying more than once, though I am open to however God may lead.
hierochloe Posted August 16, 2005 Posted August 16, 2005 As someone already stated, I have no idea what I would do as a widower. What I do know is that if I left a widow behind, I would want nothing less than for her to be lonely in my absence, fostering some kind of necro-loyalty to her past spouse. If God arranged a meeting between her and another man that was worth her marital commitment, then I would be more than happy if she would accept and return his love...
Sinner Posted August 17, 2005 Posted August 17, 2005 [quote name='hierochloe' date='Aug 16 2005, 05:47 PM'].....if I left a widow behind, I would want nothing less than for her to be lonely in my absence, fostering some kind of necro-loyalty to her past spouse.... [right][snapback]686988[/snapback][/right] [/quote] NECRO-LOYALTY !!!!!!!! Too Funny! ........ I am dying over here....
hierochloe Posted August 18, 2005 Posted August 18, 2005 Sorry - that was kind of an insensitive way to put it.
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