which are you

[dairygirl4u2c]

I figure as much as we all debate about it and throw these words around so carelessly, we might as well take a poll about it. These are the options I saw somwhere sort of official, so yea.

[1337 k4th0l1x0r]

What? There's no online quiz for us to use to figure this out?

[Laudate_Dominum]

I'm a McNabster. :

[Socrates]

This poll is really about political parties, not ideologies. Political parties, such as the Democrats and Republicans, have stood for different things at different times through history, and members of the same party may have different ideologies.
Categories such as "liberal," "neoconservative," "paleoconservative," and the like would actually be more descriptive.

[popestpiusx]

Paleoconservative/monarchist here.

[popestpiusx]

I refuse to ally myself with a political party, especially not now.

[Apathy]

guess...

[zwergel88]

I'm a Democrat.

[DeeDee]

I take the 5th on the grounds that it might incriminate me.

[cmotherofpirl]

I am registered pro-life Democrat in Pennsylvania, but I vote for whatever candidate is closest to Catholic teaching.
Many times this eliminates my own party's candidates.

[infinitelord1]

politics are politics...................i am against blleeding heart liberals and extreme conservatives. I support the constitutional right to own guns. In fact, i believe that every household should own a gun. Not just for domestic reasons, but if america was ever invaded the enemy would have another opposition besides the military. bleeding heart liberals want to take our guns away. I dont like extreme conservatives because of there personality's................they remind me of the french. They look down on you if you dont have an education............not everyone had the same opportunity as them. generally, conservatives came from a financially stable household so they dont know what its like to go without. They are just straight up snobs. I believe that the extreme of both political parties can lead to bad things. I think this country is due for a democratic swing. We need more higher paying blue collar work. Bush's administration has moved to take this away. I cant really give proof of this but i see it in my own observations............especially since i came from a blue collar area of the united states and moved to texas. I would rather see people getting payed too much then not getting paid enough for what they do. My father works for Delphi electronics in flint, michigan............he is a jouneyman construction welder who makes about $35 an hour. When i moved to texas i started to work for Federal Express in ft. worth.........i made about $9.00 an hour for my hardcore, sweaty work. I felt like i should have been payed at least $12.00/hr for what i was doing. This is what happens when the union is not strong in certain areas of the united states...........you dont get paid enough.

[infinitelord1]

the only thing i like about conservatives...............they generally support things that follow along the guidelines of morallity. However, i think it is just a plea to get more votes for the republican party. I think that Bush's motives for going into Iraq were not in the right place, but it needed to be done. I think his motives were more business oriented than anything, and when i watch that republican news program when that dude interviews democrates and makes them look stupid i think it is histerical, but i also think that a lot of the statistics he gives doesnt reveal the entire truth about things.

[Sarah_JC]

But the French* are liberal extremists! How can conservatives remind you of them!? They banned public displays of religion! That's neo-liberalism at it's core.

Aaaaargh!

* French are people from France. By which I mean the French Government.

[Anastasia13]

I'm a moral republican, social democratic, listed as independant, and I think that the government needs to be more environmentally active. I would kind of like a little bit to be a member of the democratic party. I try not to care too much about political stuff that I can't or am not in a position to change or be significantly affected by because I feel like that takes my energy and effort away from the things that I am to do right now.

[Socrates]

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Infinite, do you actually know any "extreme conservatives" or are you just repeating tired liberal drivel?
And what exactly do you mean by "extereme conservative"?
Many would consider me an "extreme conservative," yet I'm far from rich. Most of the "extreme" conservatives I know personally are not rich people, but middle class. Some of us do not have much money at all.
By "extreme conservative," I mean those that have serious conservative convictions, as opposed to the rich "country club Republicans" who care more about making money, and tend to be more liberal on the "social issues."

And the most snobbish, elitist people I have heard have been the "blue-state" liberal Democrats, made up largely of rich urban professionals and hollywood and media fatcats from the Northeast and West Coast. They regularly look down on "middle Americans" who are supposedly dumber and less educated, especially religious conservatives. The Democrat Party, while claiming to be the working man's party, is becoming increasingly dominated by the super-rich media moguls and hollywood crowd. (Ted Turner, Steven Spielberg, John Kerry, etc.)

Trying to reduce liberal vs. conservative issues to class warfare (rich vs. poor) is nothing but old liberal propaganda, which obscures the real issues involved.

[infinitelord1]

[quote name='Sarah_JC' date='Aug 13 2005, 03:45 PM']But the French* are liberal extremists! How can conservatives remind you of them!? They banned public displays of religion!  That's neo-liberalism at it's core.

Aaaaargh!

* French are people from France. By which I mean the French Government.
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i mean they are snobs

[infinitelord1]

[quote name='Light and Truth' date='Aug 13 2005, 04:07 PM']I'm a moral republican, social democratic, listed as independant, and I think that the government needs to be more environmentally active.  I would kind of like a little bit to be a member of the democratic party.  I try not to care too much about political stuff that I can't or am not in a position to change or be significantly affected by because I feel like that takes my energy and effort away from the things that I am to do right now.
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where i am from, the liberal state of michigan, the government was too active with the environment. They have made it against the law to use RV's in most of the state now. Its these bleeding heart liberals that worry about the trees and grass that have ruined it for offroader's. now you have to go to trails that are designated for this type of stuff and quite honestly its not nearly as fun. The trails are all nice and groomed and just flat out boring. If the government allowed offroading in most areas and planted new vegetation, if needed, then that would be ok......but banning RV's in most of the state..........rediculous.

[infinitelord1]

[quote name='Socrates' date='Aug 13 2005, 05:42 PM']Infinite, do you actually know any "extreme conservatives" or are you just repeating  tired liberal drivel? 
And what exactly do you mean by "extereme conservative"?
Many would consider me an "extreme conservative," yet I'm far from rich.  Most of the "extreme" conservatives I know personally are not rich people, but middle class.  Some of us do not have much money at all.
By "extreme conservative," I mean those that have serious conservative convictions, as opposed to the rich "country club Republicans" who care more about making money, and tend to be more liberal on the "social issues."

And the most snobbish, elitist people I have heard have been the "blue-state" liberal Democrats, made up largely of rich urban professionals and hollywood and media fatcats from the Northeast and West Coast.  They regularly look down on "middle Americans" who are supposedly dumber and less educated, especially religious conservatives.  The Democrat Party, while claiming to be the working man's party, is becoming increasingly dominated by the super-rich media moguls and hollywood crowd.  (Ted Turner, Steven Spielberg, John Kerry, etc.)

Trying to reduce liberal vs. conservative issues to class warfare (rich vs. poor) is nothing but old liberal propaganda, which obscures the real issues involved.
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do i know any extreme conservatives? Yes.........one of my best friend is an extreme conservative on just about every issue. When conservativism becomes extreme.........these people tend to not have any compassion............they look down on the unfortunate. Their idea is that it is the fault of the unfortunate.......as to why they are unfortunate. They dont regard feelings at all it seems like. They say that feelings should not dictate your decisions at all............i agree with this.........but i am also a compassionate person. Also, its easy for the majority of these types of people to say this because (i am willing to bet) the majority of these people have not experienced a high level of pain or frequent set backs that let emotions hold us back. Me and my friend argue politics all the time and sometimes it gets to the point where we want to start throwing fists at each other. Frankly, i look at how he was raised, his family is rich...........his dad makes like a couple million dollars a year, i look at how how much of a snob he tends to be sometimes..........once i asked him a question about myself...........keep in mind that i talk funny (people make fun of the way i talk all the time)...........i asked him that if it was my fault that i talk funny........just to see what he would say. He said, of course, YES. He did mention however that i could change the way i talk..........i agree. On the contrary however, it is not a moral issue and the way i talk is part of who i am. It made me so mad to see him say this.

Do I have a good idea of what extreme conservativism is? Yes........look at where i currently live..........college station, texas is probably the most conservative city in the united states. I look at the people and their sense of humor and their personalities and it sickens me.........they all act the same...........they somewhat talk the same...........i dont relate to their sense of humor at all.............i could go on. I see a bunch of androids is what i see. Perhaps it was my mistake by moving to the state of texas..........even more of a mistake to move to college station.

snobs are found in every culture.........place........but i think you are more likely to find a snob, in the united states, who is conservative. Liberal actors and stuff like that...........im sure a lot of them are the same way but at least they dont go hating on specific groups like homosexuals and stuff. Hating or looking down upon homo's is contradictory to what the bible says..

I think that extreme conservativism in regards to morallity is a must..........but i dont agree with holding an extreme conservative ideal about everything.

[infinitelord1]

any body want to bet on which party is gonna win the next election? I have a strong feeling that the democrats are gonna win. I dont even think they need a real strong candidate. As long as the candidate is average i think they will win. I also, think that if he does a decent job in office the democrats will probably win the next few elections. I, peronally, think that this country is due for a democratic swing.

[infinitelord1]

[quote name='infinitelord1' date='Aug 13 2005, 06:44 PM']do i know any extreme conservatives? Yes.........one of my best friend is an extreme conservative on just about every issue. When conservativism becomes extreme.........these people tend to not have any compassion............they look down on the unfortunate. Their idea is that it is the fault of the unfortunate.......as to why they are unfortunate. They dont regard feelings at all it seems like. They say that feelings should not dictate your decisions at all............i agree with this.........but i am also a compassionate person. Also, its easy for the majority of these types of people to say this because (i am willing to bet) the majority of these people have not experienced a high level of pain or frequent set backs that let emotions hold us back. Me and my friend argue politics all the time and sometimes it gets to the point where we want to start throwing fists at each other. Frankly, i look at how he was raised, his family is rich...........his dad makes like a couple million dollars a year, i look at how how much of a snob he tends to be sometimes..........once i asked him a question about myself...........keep in mind that i talk funny (people make fun of the way i talk all the time)...........i asked him that if it was my fault that i talk funny........just to see what he would say. He said, of course, YES. He did mention however that i could change the way i talk..........i agree. On the contrary however, it is not a moral issue and the way i talk is part of who i am. It made me so mad to see him say this.

Do I have a good idea of what extreme conservativism is? Yes........look at where i currently live..........college station, texas is probably the most conservative city in the united states. I look at the people and their sense of humor and their personalities and it sickens me.........they all act the same (they all act like they are so smart and like they have everything just figured out)...........they somewhat talk the same...........i dont relate to their sense of humor at all.............i could go on. I see a bunch of androids is what i see. Perhaps it was my mistake by moving to the state of texas..........even more of a mistake to move to college station.

snobs are found in every culture.........place........but i think you are more likely to find a snob, in the united states, who is conservative. Liberal actors and stuff like that...........im sure a lot of them are the same way but at least they dont go hating on specific groups like homosexuals and stuff. Hating or looking down upon homo's is contradictory to what the bible says..

I think that extreme conservativism in regards to morallity is a must..........but i dont agree with holding an extreme conservative ideal about everything.

i wanted to add something about some of the traits that conservatives seem to conform to..................in regards to acting the same..............i think they just think they are so smart and they think they have everything figured out.

Edited August 14, 2005 by infinitelord1