Laudate_Dominum Posted August 10, 2005 Posted August 10, 2005 I was forced to do a null vote because the issues at hand are too complex for me to handle.. I just don't like to think in black and white when it comes to today's political milieu. I realize many issues are black and white, but the two major parties are potpourri. It's too complicated for me right now..
track2004 Posted August 10, 2005 Posted August 10, 2005 When it comes to money, I like the republicans. When it comes to letting people do what they want I like the democrats. Most of the time I get frustrated with both sides and wonder why the Liberterians make so much sense.
Didacus Posted August 10, 2005 Posted August 10, 2005 Sorry, I don't even know the difference between the two.
jasJis Posted August 10, 2005 Posted August 10, 2005 As a person who's majority of family, in-laws, etc., are immigrants from other countries, I lean more toward the Republican version of limited government and limited welfare. I have a STRONG distrust of the oppression and tyranny an invasive and overpowering government tends to inflict on the populace. The national government tends to do as much harm as it does good. When the local commuity lives an authentic Christian lifestyle, a government doesn't need to establish and adminster welfare programs. Americans often believe charity is not their personal responsibility, but the responsibility of the Government. We preach by example. What example do we provide when we say: "Don't ask me, ask your Uncle Sam."
White Knight Posted August 11, 2005 Posted August 11, 2005 Social Issues, and Economical Issues I'm pretty much a Conservative Republican on them.
Socrates Posted August 12, 2005 Posted August 12, 2005 (edited) I'm entirely against big government and the welfare state as corrosive to a free society and to the human spirit. I am to the "right" of both the Democrats and Republicans on this, and certainly do not think we need further increases in the growth of government. Edited August 12, 2005 by Socrates
Winchester Posted August 12, 2005 Posted August 12, 2005 Although it's complex, I'm neither rich nor poor enough to vote democrats into office.
zwergel88 Posted August 12, 2005 Posted August 12, 2005 I'm a democrat. As far as things like welfare go, of course there are people who abuse the system, but I think that it is a basically good program that helps people who would otherwise have no way of getting by.
White Knight Posted August 18, 2005 Posted August 18, 2005 I think on Voting Cards they sould have your actual political postition, and not just have the term Democrat, Republican, or Independant. I think it would make it easier to make the votes count, and it would also clear up how many democrats, how many republicians, and how many independants, voted for whom. But having Liberal, Moderate, or Conservative would be more elaberate.
Aloysius Posted August 18, 2005 Posted August 18, 2005 hmm.... I'd like to see Social Secuirity abolished, welfare greatly cut back, property tax abolished, less paperwork and safetynets for people starting small businesses, a government that is a lot smaller with more states rights and less federalization, hmm... I suppose that makes me pretty darn far-right? yeah I suppose it does. : ooo... but there should be a federal law against abortion the same way there is against murder, but I'll settle for letting the states decide if that's all we can get for now.
Socrates Posted August 19, 2005 Posted August 19, 2005 [quote name='Aloysius' date='Aug 18 2005, 12:06 PM']hmm.... I'd like to see Social Secuirity abolished, welfare greatly cut back, property tax abolished, less paperwork and safetynets for people starting small businesses, a government that is a lot smaller with more states rights and less federalization, hmm... I suppose that makes me pretty darn far-right? yeah I suppose it does. : ooo... but there should be a federal law against abortion the same way there is against murder, but I'll settle for letting the states decide if that's all we can get for now. [right][snapback]689023[/snapback][/right] [/quote] I agree with Aloysius.
White Knight Posted August 19, 2005 Posted August 19, 2005 [quote name='Aloysius' date='Aug 18 2005, 12:06 PM']hmm.... I'd like to see Social Secuirity abolished, welfare greatly cut back, <a style='text-decoration: none; border-bottom: 3px double;' href="http://www.qklinkserver.com/lm/rtl3.asp?si=92&k=property%20tax&st=1" onmouseover="window.status='Search for: property tax'; self.ql_skeyphrase='property%20tax'; if(window.event) self.ql_sevent=window.event.srcElement; self.ql_timeout = setTimeout('ql_doMouseOver(1)', 1000); self.ql_isOverLink=true; return true;" onclick="if(self.ql_timeout) clearTimeout(self.ql_timeout); self.ql_isOverTip = false; ql_closeiframe(); self.ql_skeyphrase='property%20tax'; window.status='Search for: property tax';return true;" onmouseout="window.status=''; if(self.ql_timeout) clearTimeout(self.ql_timeout); self.ql_isOverTip = false; setTimeout('ql_closeiframe()', 1500); ">property tax</a> abolished, less paperwork and safetynets for people starting small businesses, a government that is a lot smaller with more <a style='text-decoration: none; border-bottom: 3px double;' href="http://www.qklinkserver.com/lm/rtl3.asp?si=92&k=states%20rights&st=1" onmouseover="window.status='Search for: states rights'; self.ql_skeyphrase='states%20rights'; if(window.event) self.ql_sevent=window.event.srcElement; self.ql_timeout = setTimeout('ql_doMouseOver(1)', 1000); self.ql_isOverLink=true; return true;" onclick="if(self.ql_timeout) clearTimeout(self.ql_timeout); self.ql_isOverTip = false; ql_closeiframe(); self.ql_skeyphrase='states%20rights'; window.status='Search for: states rights';return true;" onmouseout="window.status=''; if(self.ql_timeout) clearTimeout(self.ql_timeout); self.ql_isOverTip = false; setTimeout('ql_closeiframe()', 1500); ">states rights</a> and less federalization, hmm... I suppose that makes me pretty darn far-right? yeah I suppose it does. : ooo... but there should be a federal law against abortion the same way there is against murder, but I'll settle for letting the states decide if that's all we can get for now. [right][snapback]689023[/snapback][/right] [/quote] You seem to be the type that doesn't want the Government in your life too much lol. then again the way you posted it was pretty obvious.
Aloysius Posted August 19, 2005 Posted August 19, 2005 : put me in office, the dems will be campaigning for the next republican candidate!
SarahB Posted August 22, 2005 Posted August 22, 2005 [quote name='Aloysius' date='Aug 18 2005, 01:06 PM']hmm.... I'd like to see Social Secuirity abolished, welfare greatly cut back, property tax abolished, less paperwork and safetynets for people starting small businesses, a government that is a lot smaller with more states rights and less federalization, hmm... I suppose that makes me pretty darn far-right? yeah I suppose it does. : ooo... but there should be a federal law against abortion the same way there is against murder, but I'll settle for letting the states decide if that's all we can get for now. [right][snapback]689023[/snapback][/right] [/quote] You should join the Constitution Party, my friend.
Paladin D Posted August 22, 2005 Posted August 22, 2005 [quote name='Aloysius' date='Aug 18 2005, 01:06 PM']hmm.... I'd like to see Social Secuirity abolished, welfare greatly cut back, property tax abolished, less paperwork and safetynets for people starting small businesses, a government that is a lot smaller with more states rights and less federalization, hmm... I suppose that makes me pretty darn far-right? yeah I suppose it does. : ooo... but there should be a federal law against abortion the same way there is against murder, but I'll settle for letting the states decide if that's all we can get for now. [right][snapback]689023[/snapback][/right] [/quote] Agreed, though I bet both Democrats and Republicans would love not to pay property taxes. Republican, but some of the Democrats' policies are good (pro-enviroment for example).
blueufo7 Posted August 22, 2005 Posted August 22, 2005 i think i'd support the republicans with regards to welfare... single moms on welfare are married to the government. there has to be a better way to show citizens how to take care of themselves and their families without removing their dignity and enslaving them to the state.
infinitelord1 Posted August 22, 2005 Posted August 22, 2005 [quote name='zwergel88' date='Aug 12 2005, 09:57 AM']I'm a democrat. As far as things like welfare go, of course there are people who abuse the system, but I think that it is a basically good program that helps people who would otherwise have no way of getting by. [right][snapback]683131[/snapback][/right] [/quote] agreed. I would rather see people get fed than have this right taken away because of people who abuse the system. I would rather see people make twenty bucks an hour even if they didnt "deserve" that much for what they do...........compared to everyone making eight bucks an hour (those without college degrees) not getting enough for what they do and of course, having a small amount of the nations population reeping all the benefits. I heard about this country in the middle east somewhere that offers free, excellent college education to its people........along with many other unheard of benefits. I guess this small country is very rich with oil refinery's and such. Just an example of how a wealthy, non-greedy government could really do a lot for its people of it so chose. The problem with america doing this is it is so wrapped up in business. Neither a democrat or a republican could offer this. I think the economy could though. We could become more self-dependent as far as resources go. It would just take a little less influence from politics.......that's all. Darn greedy politicians.
infinitelord1 Posted August 22, 2005 Posted August 22, 2005 first of all i am not racist but there is something political that has been going on that really bothers me. I am not against someone making a better lifestyle for themselves..........i and anybody would do the same. What i am referring to is the amount of hispanics from south of the united states coming to america. I am pretty sure that bush has made it easier for them to get american citizenship. I dont agree, however i am glad for the mexicans who come here and do a good job with a lot of the blue collar type works that they do. However, I feel that the governent should prevent this. I think it takes a lot of jobs away from native born americans. I think Bush was thinking more along the lines of cheaper wages for blue collar work. Bull carp if you ask me..........you are taking jobs away from native born americans............really i think in the long run it will hurt the economy but it probably wont be that much at all any time soon. Really i think higher paying jobs would be much better for the economy than a bunch of low paying jobs. I remember from history class that during world war I the nation had such a small number of ultra wealthy people that the economy collapsed. All these ultra rich people controlled a high majority of the stocks and since there was a war the wouldnt exchange. This is totally were our country would end up again if this conservative ideal of money continues........not enough taxes on the rich and not enough government control.
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